There isn't any resistance to youth. There's just resistance to the youth that you personally want to see. Smith is young, Dekeyser is young, Andersson is young, Tatar is young, Lashoff is young. All of them have seen significant playing time this year and last. Mrazek will next year, and so will Nyquist. If Nyquist were playing right now you wouldn't be saying either Babcock or Holland were resistant to youth influxes. You're only saying this because you'd rather have Nyquist than Cleary or Sammy. We all would. But not playing one guy does not make an organization resistant to youth.
But, but, but...Quincey is terrible and Quellet is sooooooooooooo good! Everybody used to say the same thing about Smith. In truth, most guys in GR need to be there another year at least, Nyquist, Mrazek, and Glendening aside.
thanks for answering with a bunch of hyperbole. it always helps advance a conversation along! /sarcasm
the red wings have openly stated they want to keep their prospects in the minors for a long time. i'm pretty sure when an organization goes on the record saying something like that, there's not much reason to try and say it isn't the case. this is not about cleary versus nyquist or something so simple. this is about a pattern over several years where the wings will have young player that they never give a chance to. they stash them in the ahl for years and then give them limited chances to prove themselves often not putting them in a chance to succeed.
heck, you mention quincey. he's a great example showing how long this has been going on. he was always sheltered in detroit and had to go to other teams to prove he could make it in the nhl. (however his second stint here is really making me question that!) but had he stayed in detroit, he most likely would have never got those minutes because we were too busy keeping a 58 year old chris chelios on the roster. additionally we had guys like ritola and mursak that showed great potential, but were only given limited 4th line minutes before moving on. sure you can say neither of them made it in the nhl anywhere else, but that's not the point. the point is that the team needs to give younger players a legitimate shot at proving themselves.
it worries me that guys like tatar and nyquist will suffer the same fate as guys like ritola and mursak. guys that had promise but never helped the team.
and yes there are a number of younger players on the team now. unfortunately, it seems to always take a rash of injuries to make that happen. i know we are a top level team and don't have slots for youth, but it was frustrating to see the blackhawks last year manage to fit in saad and shaw into their very high quality lineup and allow them to excel. you look at a guy like shaw who as a 5th rounder but has the 5th most games played by anyone in his draft class right now.
for forwards, there have not been any players under 25 given chances to play in the top 6 in the last several years. we have been a bit open to trying the european guys like leino and brunner and giving them minutes, but i just don't see much opportunity for our young players. on defense the last 12 months have been nice. it was good to see that holland gave younger players a chance after we lost all the veterans. i am hoping that attitude continues.
long story short, i am trying to have a genuine conversation and make legitimate points. i would appreciate less mocking in peoples responses.
Edited by dobbles, 08 November 2013 - 11:07 AM.