Guest fat guy in a maltby jersey Report post Posted November 14, 2013 ken holland can't even tell a guy when he's waiving him? get this piece of s*** GM out of here. 2 BadgerBob and evilmrt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 What the hell is the point of having a capologist if we can't even avoid situations like this?? A preteen on capgeek could have seen this coming a mile away. Thankfully we gave Ryan Martin even more responsibility since Nill left. 1 dirtydangles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 What the hell is the point of having a capologist if we can't even avoid situations like this?? A preteen on capgeek could have seen this coming a mile away. Thankfully we gave Ryan Martin even more responsibility since Nill left. I wouldn't go to town on Martin really. Holland was the one signing the contracts and most likely went to Martin and said, "Can you make it work?" I imagine capologist have the role of fixing problems that others have made or try and prevent them from happening. I guess I just want to say that Martins probably the guy there to find loopholes for Holland. He's not the one putting us in horrible positions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 What the hell is the point of having a capologist if we can't even avoid situations like this?? A preteen on capgeek could have seen this coming a mile away. Thankfully we gave Ryan Martin even more responsibility since Nill left. Don't see what this has to do with Martin. Holland's the one inking bad deals with veteran players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Martin is primarily responsible for collective bargaining agreement (CBA) administration and compliance, salary cap management, player contract research and analysis, and salary arbitration preparation. He is also involved extensively in all facets of player contract negotiations, strategic planning and player evaluations at both the professional and amateur levels. That is straight from his profile. It's well known the Red Wings front office is run by committee as opposed to just Holland. There's more than enough blame to go around. Edited November 14, 2013 by Son of a Wing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadgerBob 297 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 ken holland can't even tell a guy when he's waiving him? get this piece of sh*t GM out of here. Seriously this. Such a crappy thing to do to a guy who doesn't even deserve to be waived in the first place. Maybe he's just embarassed because he realizes this is all his own stupid fault. This is becoming beyond frustrating. 2 Dominator2005 and LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 Seriously this. Such a crappy thing to do to a guy who doesn't even deserve to be waived in the first place. Maybe he's just embarassed because he realizes this is all his own stupid fault. This is becoming beyond frustrating. If it is true it makes you wonder what the hell is going on with management now. This situation is stupid enough but to have a guy find out form the media that he's going on waivers? It's like the wheels are coming off. 3 LidsFan, Hockeymom1960 and Dominator2005 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 He got waived after practice. Maybe he didn't have his phone with him to get the message until after he showered. Still... you'd think if Holland couldn't be there personally, he'd have made sure that someone caught him before the press did. 2 LidsFan and Nev reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 I'm totally bummed. I love the guy's courage and his willingness to work. I hope he clears and can go to GR. That would mean I'd get to see him next week. So why the hell can't we kick Cleary's sorry ass to the curb? He should have NEVER changed his mind, and gone to Philly instead. He wouldn't be missed, believe me. 1 LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadgerBob 297 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 Ken Holland: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 i always liked eaves more than miller. 5 canadian wings fan, PavelValerievichDatsyuk, Hockeymom1960 and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 On a positive note the Griffins are stacked lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 Ken Holland: I wish Holland was like McGrath, that way our 4th line would be the Hanson Brothers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadgerBob 297 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 I wish Holland was like McGrath, that way our 4th line would be the Hanson Brothers Only time Holland would pick them up is now, right in their prime beer belly years. They get matching 5 year $4M/yr no trade/move clauses too 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 Great.It's player #5 screwed due to the Cleary signing.Emmerton,Tootoo,Eaves waived,Tatar benched more than playing and Nyquist in the minors. Drew Miller...you're next son 1 LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 Great.It's player #5 screwed due to the Cleary signing.Emmerton,Tootoo,Eaves waived,Tatar benched more than playing and Nyquist in the minors. Drew Miller...you're next son In all fairness, Emmerton is out because of andersson and Glendening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 Hey at least these guys can benefit from a winning atmosphere...in Grand Rapids. Sigh. 2 hooon and LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 On a positive note the Griffins are stacked lol That article calls tootoo a defenseman multiple times... i expected more out of mlive lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 Apparently that is what happened: I didnt even know, said Eaves after practice, whos in the final year of his contract. I knew I wasnt playing. I just found out from you guys. http://redwingsfront.wordpress.com/2013/11/14/eaves-becomes-another-salary-cap-victim-wings-coach-mike-babcock-its-a-business-decision/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Are you farking serious??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Greek 323 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) According to Ted Kulfan, Eaves found out he had been waived from reporters. If true that really sucks. If true, then I'm ashamed to be. a wings fan. These are people they're dealing with. Once Kenny made the decision, he should have called eaves before filing the paperwork or whatever formality puts it into motion. Edited November 14, 2013 by The Greek 2 Red Crazy and LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) If it is true it makes you wonder what the hell is going on with management now. This situation is stupid enough but to have a guy find out form the media that he's going on waivers? It's like the wheels are coming off. I think its due to Mr. I's disappearance (this was a big story in the Freep a couple of weeks ago). Yes, I know it's his age and health, but the press is picking up on the leadership vacuum. Perhaps Chris isn't picking up the slack, and Holland has free reign now for the first time ever. Edited November 14, 2013 by evilmrt 1 Dominator2005 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted November 15, 2013 I think its due to Mr. I's disappearance (this was a big story in the Freep a couple of weeks ago). Yes, I know it's his age and health, but the press is picking up on the leadership vacuum. Perhaps Chris isn't picking up the slack, and Holland has free reign now for the first time ever. This! This is exactly how I see the things... 1 LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) This just pisses me off. Really?????? How about being a man, Holland, and bring him up to your office and let him know in private before everyone else. That's about as classless as it gets. Edited November 15, 2013 by Hockeymom1960 2 evilmrt and LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derblaueClaus 1,668 Report post Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) Don't like it too, but this little article puts this mess into perspective. http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2013/11/14/5105742/how-the-heck-did-we-get-here Sums up my opinion but it nevertheless sucks. It hink Eaves is one of the players you need in a salarycap era with a very good value of effort per dollar. Waiving such a guy speaks volumes about the Wings situation at the moment. Edited November 15, 2013 by derblaueClaus 3 LidsFan, BadgerBob and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SensViking 20 Report post Posted November 15, 2013 I wonder if Ottawa would consider picking him up for nothing to help stabilize the bottom 6. A redo of sorts...I always liked the guy. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
