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#361 DatsyukToZetterberg

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:31 PM

Just to get it out of the way...3-1 Canes on Thursday night.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:31 PM

If an opposing team ever iced a lineup of rookies who had never scored an NHL goal, and a goalie with less than 5 NHL games the Wings would lose at least 18-0.


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#363 GoWings!

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:31 PM

Poor Danny. I think we would've played a better series against Chicago if Danny didn't get injured against Anaheim. Then Chicago wouldn't have kept passing to Brendan Smith on purpose just so they can get the puck right back in a better scoring position in our zone. As if things aren't bad enough,we are really gonna miss DD!



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:32 PM

I'll take them. Shoot, I'll even pay the shipping.

 

Preds r starting their rookie goalie?! If we dont win and score atleast 4 im giving away my winter classic tix & Datsyuk jersey!


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:35 PM

I think I'd be ok with Blashill taking Babs' job.

 

I don't think it's Babs fault as much as it is Hollands. As a coach you want to make the best decisions working with what you have, so why the same roster that OBVIOUSLY isn't working? Does it take 7 games to realize that the lineups suck? Unfortunately I fear Babs would be the scapegoat and be the first to go in the event it comes to a house cleaning. 


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#366 Dabura

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:36 PM

So it's settled? Replace Babs with Blashill and Holland with a hamster?


Edited by Dabura, 19 November 2013 - 10:36 PM.

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#367 T.Low

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:37 PM

You people are pathetic excuse for fans. I'm ready for a struggling Red Wings season, it's about time to burn off all this dead wood.


When your favorite band puts out a new album and it sucks and is unbearable to listen to, do you keep playing it over and over again? You keep listening to it or do you go listen to something else?

That hockey was painful to watch.

Edited by T.Low, 19 November 2013 - 10:38 PM.


#368 Euro_Twins

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:38 PM

 

Here's the thing.  With Daniel Cleary, you just need to get him to the playoffs.  After that, he picks his game up exponentially.  He showed that last season.    

 

so you are completely cool with letting him slow down the entire flow of the game and team for 82 games so he can possibly get slightly better in the playoffs... great



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:38 PM

I've seriously started five different posts and couldn't finish them.  My brain is pissed off in about ten different directions.  s***ty roster, stubborn coach, under performing team, and nobody owning up to anything.  I wish I were like many hockey fans and could find a way to just pin this on Bettman.  But alas, this is our mess. 

 

On the bright side, Datsyuk will be 36 next year.  Ugh.


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Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:39 PM

$4M+ for Ericsson? What a complete joke! There is Holland's dumb-ass loyalty thinking again.  He needs to be busy finding a #1 Defenseman, because Kronwall is not it! Kronwall doesn't even hit anymore! Quincey and Kindl are a waste of $6.2M.  Quincey better NOT be re-signed and IMO, neither should Ericsson...

 

The last time the Wings went this long without a win? 1989-90 and what happened then? Missed the playoffs...if that happens Holland should be relieved of his duties...if not sooner.

 

I am SO mad right now, its unbelievable! I don't even enjoy watching this garbage team...at least in the 80's and early 90's you saw a team of KIDS building together and knew something special was happening.  All I see here is rapid, rapid decline...


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:40 PM

 

I don't think it's Babs fault as much as it is Hollands. As a coach you want to make the best decisions working with what you have, so why the same roster that OBVIOUSLY isn't working? Does it take 7 games to realize that the lineups suck? Unfortunately I fear Babs would be the scapegoat and be the first to go in the event it comes to a house cleaning. 

 

Cleary played 14 minutes tonight, including being on the ice at any point in the last 10 minutes... that 14 doesn't include the 4 minutes he put us short handed for his stellar D on that high stick haha... Babcock is at fault, we have been terrible and as much as it sucks... when you lose your number 2 center you need to break up the twins and not make helm play a role thats over his head. We have 0 center depth because he refuses to break them up even when its the most obvious thing ever



#372 Nyquistfan14

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:40 PM

 
I don't think it's Babs fault as much as it is Hollands. As a coach you want to make the best decisions working with what you have, so why the same roster that OBVIOUSLY isn't working? Does it take 7 games to realize that the lineups suck? Unfortunately I fear Babs would be the scapegoat and be the first to go in the event it comes to a house cleaning. 


What do you mean it's not babs fault? He's the one that plays cleary in stupid situations, the one that scratched Tatar, who sits Tatar in overtime and we obviously get scored on, played Quincey on the second power play unit tonight. Hey babs maybe try out smith on the pp he was only the pp quarterback for the griffins when he was playing well. Babs is doing a terrible job with line combos, special teams lines, and putting young guys in situations to succeed. I for the life of me have never understood why smith has never been give power play time with the big club considering offense is supposed to be the strength of his game

#373 Dave

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:41 PM

I've seriously started five different posts and couldn't finish them.  My brain is pissed off in about ten different directions.  s***ty roster, stubborn coach, under performing team, and nobody owning up to anything.  I wish I were like many hockey fans and could find a way to just pin this on Bettman.  But alas, this is our mess. 

 

On the bright side, Datsyuk will be 36 next year.  Ugh.

 

Here's a post I read on HF about the situation (specifically how bad Quincey is).

 

 

Originally Posted by Kyleftlx viewpost.gif

There's something about the way Detroit is currently constructed, whether it's the system or it's just the level of talent on the ice... Quincey produced everywhere else except in Detroit. Weiss produced just fine in Florida. Tootoo was fantastic in Nashville. Samuelsson produced in Vancouver and Florida. Filppula and Hudler leave Detroit, and both of them have produced with new roles on new teams. What is it about Detroit that is killing production? Are these guys mis-used? Do they have a chance to really succeed here? What's the problem, exactly? Quincey may not be a great player, in fact, he may be as awful or even worse than his stats indicate, but why did Detroit acquire him with such a high draft pick if they weren't planning to play to his strengths? Why would they sign Samuelsson if they weren't planning to actually utilize Samuelsson for the two years he was signed? What was the point in bringing Tootoo here if you can't even use him correctly?

I don't know, I think there could be a problem with the current system if every single guy just about that the team brings in just can't seem to actually help the team. These are all guys who have been able to help someone in the past, most cases even just one year previously... there's just something weird about the situation in Detroit.

 

It's a good point, but I'm not smart enough to know if it's actually valid.



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:43 PM

I don't think it's Babs fault as much as it is Hollands. As a coach you want to make the best decisions working with what you have, so why the same roster that OBVIOUSLY isn't working? Does it take 7 games to realize that the lineups suck? Unfortunately I fear Babs would be the scapegoat and be the first to go in the event it comes to a house cleaning. 

 

I love Babs. But it really seems like he's losing the locker room, along with his mind. Maybe he's just been here too long. Everyone who's ever played for him and spoken about him has said he's one of those "hard" coaches. Often that kind of style only works for so long.

 

Him, the team, everything - it feels tired, old, stale. To put it mildly.


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#375 dirtydangles

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:45 PM

I'd LOVE to see a "WE WANT NYQUIST" chant at the Joe to go along with the Boos. Holland needs to hear that this is unacceptable. 


Is there a kickstarter campaign for Jakub Kindl to never play another NHL game?


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:46 PM

 Here's a post I read on HF about the situation (specifically how bad Quincey is).

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Originally Posted by Kyleftlx
There's something about the way Detroit is currently constructed, whether it's the system or it's just the level of talent on the ice... Quincey produced everywhere else except in Detroit. Weiss produced just fine in Florida. Tootoo was fantastic in Nashville. Samuelsson produced in Vancouver and Florida. Filppula and Hudler leave Detroit, and both of them have produced with new roles on new teams. What is it about Detroit that is killing production? Are these guys mis-used? Do they have a chance to really succeed here? What's the problem, exactly? Quincey may not be a great player, in fact, he may be as awful or even worse than his stats indicate, but why did Detroit acquire him with such a high draft pick if they weren't planning to play to his strengths? Why would they sign Samuelsson if they weren't planning to actually utilize Samuelsson for the two years he was signed? What was the point in bringing Tootoo here if you can't even use him correctly?

I don't know, I think there could be a problem with the current system if every single guy just about that the team brings in just can't seem to actually help the team. These are all guys who have been able to help someone in the past, most cases even just one year previously... there's just something weird about the situation in Detroit.

It's a good point, but I'm not smart enough to know if it's actually valid.


This post struck fear into me. Dear God....Why does that MAKE SO MUCH SENSE?!!?

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:48 PM

I love Babs. But it really seems like he's losing the locker room, along with his mind. Maybe he's just been here too long. Everyone who's ever played for him and spoken about him has said he's one of those "hard" coaches. Often that kind of style only works for so long.

 

Him, the team, everything - it feels tired, old, stale. To put it mildly.

 

That's not to say I'm cool with Holland, mind you. I do think he's absolutely the main problem here. Which is tough because I also believe he is, generally, the best GM in the league.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:50 PM

 
That's not to say I'm cool with Holland, mind you. I do think he's absolutely the main problem here. Which is tough because I also believe he is, generally, the best GM in the league.


He used to be one of the best, but now he is one of the worst. I think most of it is strictly due to loyalty and that needs to stop

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:52 PM

According to "The Fourth Period" the Wings have inquired about Dmitry Kulikov.  Wonder what our offer was?  Probably Tootoo or Eaves straight up, because anything other than our scraps would be an "overpayment" and god forbid.


GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

"Some girls are 17 even though they look 25."

 

 


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:53 PM

Well, at least we didn't lose in OT. 

 

I hate Weber!

Would have preferred the point.







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