Internet.Unknown 422 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 if we make the playoffs ill be happy. With the roster we have so should you. That's the problem. "With the roster we have." It shouldn't have come to this. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 20, 2013 Does it piss anyone else off that this team's singular goal every year now is to just make the playoffs? Holland talks about this team being in playoff contention as if they are successful right now. The East is the weakest s*** ever. They would be in 9th place in the West with Dallas having two games in hand if they were still in that conference. Obviously this is a men's league, but Cleary and Samuelsson look nothing like men (not even including Sammy bitching out of that fight last night). I don't think a youth injection can make this team any worse. I'm not sure from where you've drawn that conclusion. The goal last year was to make the playoffs, because it was a transition year. Before that? No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 - when asked about FA signings was careful to point out that we haven't seen enough games out of the full team he built over the summer. Bulls***, he's always said the 20 game mark is when he decides. I guess this number goes up as the cap goes down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themcityblues 249 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Wtf is he saying "kids aren't the answer"? They are the future of the hockey team. Holland sounds like an old man stuck in history. Also, seems like he is declining cognitively with all the long pauses and "errr..ahhh.oooomm..." Hope the man is alright. Edited November 20, 2013 by themcityblues 1 BadgerBob reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 Damn, Holland sounded almost offended when the guy brought up Jurco. This is the most pressured Holland I've heard. "NOW HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE". LOL. Guess a youth movement is out of the question. I liked that he took some blame and admitted things aren't good. He didn't defend Cleary in any way so I'm starting to think Danny boy is on the ropes, could he be sacrificed for the sake of Nyquist? Please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themcityblues 249 Report post Posted November 20, 2013 What's weird about Holland is how he turns any suggestions that he disagrees with into an ideological argument. Nobody has suggest Nyquist is "The Answer," we're just flabberghasted that such a special player did not earn a place on this team with such a great performance in last season's playoffs. It's not a matter of men vs kids (wtf lol?) but putting the best players on the ice. 5 pucktividi, haroldsnepsts, Nev and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted November 21, 2013 Another thing...when the kids stepped up pre and during the Playoffs,that was great and all the part of Ken's rebuild on a fly plain while couple of months later,suddenly the kids are not the answer.A bit of contradiction by Mr.Holland 1 themcityblues reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted November 21, 2013 Holland should be featured on a season finale of the show "Hoarders." The guy just wants every prospect safely developing outside the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) I've been a major KH fan, but he's missing the point. One main problem is secondary scoring and a 3rd line of Tats Helm NyQ is infact the answer. It will also relieve pressure from the 2nd line not scoring. He commented on how close we are to the record looking very different with all those overtime loses. So yeah, just a little bit of scoring from that third line could have made a major difference. Edit: he often says he was brought up too fast as a goalie and it devastated his confidence; he would have been much more successful had he been ripened first. He seriously needs to get counseling to see its a case by case issue. He's right to a point but he's over the top with it. Edited November 21, 2013 by T.Low Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted November 21, 2013 The kids were the answer in a lockout shortened season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted November 21, 2013 Not like Toews was a first overall pick and a genrational superstar. The Wings have a great prospect pool, but that's what they're missing. A lottery pick. I understand wanting to stack the squad with young guns, hell, I'd love to have a 4th line right now of Sheahan - Jarnkrok - Jurco. But we all have to stop comparing Nyquist, Tatar, etc to guys like Toews, Skinner, Crosby, or even Landeskog and Nichushkin. These guys were all drafted in the top 1-15 spots. I'm not comparing them to Tatar and nyquist, obviously those guys are highly skilled highly touted forwards. My point is that "kids" with energy and skill, and speed can make a difference. The hawks won the cup a couple years ago with a very young team and aside from Kane and Toews they didn't have all top ten picks on the roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted November 21, 2013 I get a feeling that Mr I has had a word with Kenny and the kitchen is warming up. Kenny hasn't been in this position before and is struggling to cope. At the end of the day he made 2 signings he didn't need to do and its hurting the team and the progress of some of the prospects. hopefully he will have learnt from it and at the end of this season doesn't make the same decisions again. Let them go Kenny, its a business and the owners and fans want and deserve the best product you can put out on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted November 21, 2013 I get a feeling that Mr I has had a word with Kenny and the kitchen is warming up. Kenny hasn't been in this position before and is struggling to cope. At the end of the day he made 2 signings he didn't need to do and its hurting the team and the progress of some of the prospects. hopefully he will have learnt from it and at the end of this season doesn't make the same decisions again. Let them go Kenny, its a business and the owners and fans want and deserve the best product you can put out on the ice. I assume you mean Weiss and Alfredsson, cause Cleary and Sammy were the best signings ever!!! 1 Andy Pred 48 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings10 300 Report post Posted November 21, 2013 I honestly can't stand listening to Holland anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted November 21, 2013 Holland seemed a little rattled in that interview which if nothing else alleviates any fears I had that he's burying his head in the sand. He can see there's a problem, but whether he's too stubborn to actually rectify it is another matter. I wasn't expecting much more from him. A couple of excuses here, a couple of ramblings there. His insistence on and attempted defence of his awful old folk FA signings, whilst expected, was still infuriating to hear. In all honesty I've no faith in him to make this team any better than it is unless we land on a a draft goldmine like with Dats, Z and co. Shudder to think where we'd be without our scouts. ^ Some of us have been saying all this for years now. Years! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites