SDavis35 140 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 Was thinking about it last night. Samuelsson is a former 2nd liner, played with the Sedins a few games and is capable of scoring. Yet most of this season he has been playing on the 4th line. I'm not sure he can live up to that role, yet we have a capable top 6, so where does Sammy fit in this team? And how can we put him in a position to succeed better on this team since we have him likely all year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 his role is to waste cap space and we'd succeed best benching him. 4 BadgerBob, Hockeymom1960, King Crane and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockey&beer 16 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 He does provide the team with a guaranteed offsides call every other time he steps on the ice (I was going to end that comment with a smiley or an "lol", but it's just too darn aggrevating) 3 b.shanafan14, Marxx71 and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 Wrist shots to the other teams jersey crest? Offsides? Turnovers? Standing around and getting caught out of position? Increasing the blood pressure of Red Wings fans [just like Dan Cleary] who'd rather see a young prospect in his spot? Did I win? 2 Hockeymom1960 and King Crane reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenrebellion 415 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 His role is to get injured for the rest of the season so we can put him on IR and save the cap space. I kiiiiiiiid...sorta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 His role is: we're stuck with him because he trappes Holland regarding a buyout this summer. And he's not quite as bad as Cleary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canadian wings fan 305 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 He is actually better than Cleary at this point in their respective careers. I'll give him that and if he could start blasting home some one timers on the 2nd PP unit I would be ecstatic 1 St. Michael (the Red Wing) reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 this thread is going exactly how i expected it to go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SDavis35 140 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 this thread is going exactly how i expected it to go Yup, we're great armchair GMs, but the coaching side seems to be a little weak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWang 422 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 You guys forgot absolutely destroying shinpads. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Sammy was a good acquisition at the time. It certainly seems that two years and $2m/per would have made better sense. Or even 1yr. There was no adjustment phase, as he's been a wing before obviously and therefore knows the systems. A right-handed shot we needed for the power play point. Swede background with Canadian light edge. He's actually done well this year. I used to worry every time he got the puck, but now he is much more composed and makes pretty good passes and pretty good decisions. Certainly has more patience with the puck than Tafar for example. He is a versatile depth signing. He can play third line grinder, be plugged into the second or even first-line in a pinch, and be plugged into fourth line minutes. It wasn't a bad acquisition, it was just the contract itself that was poor. Edited November 22, 2013 by T.Low 2 Marxx71 and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadgerBob 297 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 Best way to use Sammy is to strap him to the net like Goldberg in mighty ducks and use him as a shooter tutor in practice. Otherwise maybe fill water bottles? 2 Hockeymom1960 and St. Michael (the Red Wing) reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 22, 2013 His role right now is to play because he's on the roster. His role once Alfredsson and Weiss return will be to hang out on the bench. He is actually better than Cleary at this point in their respective careers. I'll give him that and if he could start blasting home some one timers on the 2nd PP unit I would be ecstatic Absolutely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 LGW Whipping Boy. 2 Hockeymom1960 and Wingsfan72 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 He keeps the noon massagers busy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 He was brought in because we needed a right-handed shot who wasn't afraid to actually SHOOT the blessed thing. Now he's just there to distract the female admirers so that Hank can focus on hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 His first time around Sammy was a bargain and probably didn't get enough credit for what he brought to the team. This time around kinda makes it hard to remember all that though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoalieManPat 1,007 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Sammy was a good acquisition at the time. It certainly seems that two years and $2m/per would have made better sense. Or even 1yr. I disagree wholeheartedly. At the time it was a decision based on panic. Holland missed out on Suter and Parise and just grabbed whatever scrap he could. Then Sammy was coming off a year that he couldn't stay healthy and had health concerns still when signed. What happens? He plays only 4 games all year due to multiple injuries and then uses those injuries to block a buyout. Nothing about the the Sammy acquisition could be considered good. Both of Hollands panic signings that off-season (TooToo and Sammy) have no role with this team. Bad management there. Edited November 22, 2013 by GoalieManPat 3 BadgerBob, The Greek and haroldsnepsts reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barabbas16 499 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) His first time around Sammy was a bargain and probably didn't get enough credit for what he brought to the team. This time around kinda makes it hard to remember all that though. I agree. Guy has 4 solid seasons in Detroit are a pretty good 2nd/3rd liner with some size and a right handed shot on the PP. Scores a points better than every other game. Contributes just as much or more in the playoffs, including a Cup run and another run to the finals. All for pretty cheap, considering. $537,500 the first year, $1.2 million per the next 3. Goes to Vancouver for better $ and earns it - does even better for two seasons. Hits the 30 goal mark. 50 and 53 points respectively. 15 points in 12 playoff games in one of those years. Gets traded to Florida. Is out for part of the beginning of the season, but comes back and ends up with 31 points in 54 games (full season 57 point pace). Florida gets to the playoffs for the 1st time in forever. He has 5 points in 7 playoff games. Signs in Detroit again. Lockout. Injuries. Doesn't really get a chance to even play before everybody on LGW decides they hate him. Edited November 22, 2013 by barabbas16 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Secret 304 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 The patented Mikael Sameulsson head fake... why else would you keep him around?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 I disagree wholeheartedly. At the time it was a decision based on panic. Holland missed out on Suter and Parise and just grabbed whatever scrap he could. Then Sammy was coming off a year that he couldn't stay healthy and had health concerns still when signed. What happens? He plays only 4 games all year due to multiple injuries and then uses those injuries to block a buyout. Nothing about the the Sammy acquisition could be considered good. Both of Hollands panic signings that off-season (TooToo and Sammy) have no role with this team. Bad management there. Fair enough: we disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mitchmac33 103 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 Team hugger 1 wings87 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danielsm 244 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 His role is to take some of the heat off Smith, Kindl and Quincey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted November 24, 2013 To Annoy Me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukToZetterberg 128 Report post Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) I will say this: he's better than Dan Cleary. He's a decent bottom-6 offensive option at this point. However, not great. Yes, he put up 30 in Vancouver. Playing with the Sedins. He could have a role with this team but he just doesn't play it. He's not producing a whole lot despite being somewhat healthy this year (knock on wood). He's not close to the biggest of our problems, but he certainly isn't a large part of the solution, either. Edited November 24, 2013 by DatsyukToZetterberg 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
