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#81 King Crane

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 05:25 PM

ESPN's power ranking comment for the Red Wings: "Hmmm, wonder if there's a game in Ottawa on Sunday that a certain Red Wing has circled on his calendar?"

 

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 06:01 PM

Pavel will be at the Joe on Tuesday, but not sure if he'll practice.  "Feeling better" per the Freep.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:19 AM

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Ken Holland said Datsyuk feels better but won't play Friday at NYI. Maybe Sunday in Ottawa but not sure yet.



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:24 AM

Silver lining time:

 

Leave him out until next week and get more out of the secondary scoreres. They'll absolutely have to pick up their game. Weiss, Alfredssonn, Mule, Helm, Nyquist, Tatar.

 

Best case scenario is that this team finds it's scoring legs without Pavel, and are that much better when he comes back.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 12:33 PM

Silver lining time:

 

Leave him out until next week and get more out of the secondary scoreres. They'll absolutely have to pick up their game. Weiss, Alfredssonn, Mule, Helm, Nyquist, Tatar.

 

Best case scenario is that this team finds it's scoring legs without Pavel, and are that much better when he comes back.

 

If him and Z wouldn't carrying their lines this team would be even more lost than they already are. Expecting Nyquist and Tatar to bring it every night is unfair, they are still rookies but Alfie and Weiss + Mule have to step up now no question.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 12:47 PM

 

If him and Z wouldn't carrying their lines this team would be even more lost than they already are. Expecting Nyquist and Tatar to bring it every night is unfair, they are still rookies but Alfie and Weiss + Mule have to step up now no question.

 

I expect Z to carry this team while Pav's out. But he needs help, big time. Alfie and Mule have been contributing. They need to keep it up, and Weiss needs to pot a few.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 02:09 PM

Silver lining time:

 

Leave him out until next week and get more out of the secondary scoreres. They'll absolutely have to pick up their game. Weiss, Alfredssonn, Mule, Helm, Nyquist, Tatar.

 

The only one of those who needs to pick it up is Weiss, and he's stuck with Cleary and Sammy for now.  Mule - Z - Goose has been a great line, Alfie is 3rd? in scoring, Helm is scoring despite not being a scorer.  Tatar could do with a few more points but he had a great game Sunday.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:45 PM

Apparently Shanny was just interviewed on NHL network and called out on the non-suspension for the Dats hit. Sounds like he's catching a ton of flack for not suspending Cowen and admitted he called Holland and apologized. I can't find a link, just people tweeting about it...

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@Kayluvsredwings: Shanny said he called Holland and basically told him his side, but also apologized. Didnt tell us what Holland said back to him.

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Hmm...

@georgemalik: What happens when Brendan Shanahan calls you to speak about Datsyuks injury/Cowens non-suspension http://t.co/ITPzyv4kta

Edit again because I'm cranky about this, but I would have asked Shanny about the "thought process" behind the non-suspension on Weber. But then again I'm a *****, so...

Edited by BottleOfSmoke, 27 November 2013 - 05:53 PM.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:49 PM

@Kayluvsredwings: Shanny said he called Holland and basically told him his side, but also apologized. Didnt tell us what Holland said back to him.

 

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:55 PM

The only one of those who needs to pick it up is Weiss, and he's stuck with Cleary and Sammy for now.  Mule - Z - Goose has been a great line, Alfie is 3rd? in scoring, Helm is scoring despite not being a scorer.  Tatar could do with a few more points but he had a great game Sunday.

 

Even so, they're all gonna have to push themselves to be (even) better. I'm with zombo: (even) more secondary scoring will only help this team in the long run.

 

With that in mind, the guy who interests me the most right now: Darren Helm. He's not really a second-line center, but more and more I'm thinking he might actually be the right guy for the role. Mental lapses aside, he has really impressed me. And I was already a huge fan.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 06:44 PM

So Brendan Shanahan gave George Malik a call:

 

http://kuklaskorner....datsyuks-injury


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 12:33 PM

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Datsyuk said he is feeling a little better but not where he needs to be to play. Doesn't think he's going on trip to NYI and OTT.

 

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Datsyuk wouldn't comment on Cowen's elbow to his chin or NHL's decision not to suspend him.



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Posted 28 November 2013 - 12:36 PM

I hope the Dept of Player Safety takes this one right in the ass. "Oh, we couldn't have possibly known he was that hurt."

And that is why suspensions should be based on intent and legality of the play and not the resulting injury.

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 01:42 PM

Pavel Datsyuk (concussion) not joining #RedWings for trip to Islanders & Ottawa. Will bring total games missed at least to four.


No suspension... Great call Shanny



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Posted 28 November 2013 - 01:54 PM

 have a feeling he will be out for a while.... darn


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 01:55 PM

Kerry Fraser's take on the play, which pretty much sums it up for me:

I say it's time to alter the thought process in situations such as this. No matter how you spin it, the irrefutable evidence is that Pavel Datsyuk's head became the sole point of contact when Jared Cowen made a poor decision to extend his elbow and delivered the late, illegal contact. Datsyuk sustained an injury resulting from Cowen's elbow to the head.

 

http://www.tsn.ca/bl...aser/?id=437641

Cowen may not have intended to catch Dats in the head, but he intentionally threw an elbow.  When you add to that the league's policy of taking the injury into consideration (which is one I disagree with), Cowen should've been suspended.

If he doesn't throw the elbow, there's no concussion regardless of the move Datsyuk made.
 



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Posted 28 November 2013 - 01:55 PM

You blew another one, Shanny :nono:



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Posted 28 November 2013 - 02:22 PM

So Shanny is basically saying go ahead and throw an elbow when defending Datsyuk cause you can just blame it on his skill afterwards?  What a f***in crock!

 

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 02:48 PM

So Shanny is basically saying go ahead and throw an elbow when defending Datsyuk cause you can just blame it on his skill afterwards?  What a f***in crock!

 

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 10:37 PM

I hope Big E, Bert, or Smitty runs that dirtbag the first opportunity on Sunday.





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