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#221 PumpkinEscobar

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 12:45 PM

Alfie is the only free agent I'd like to keep next offseason...rest can go

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 03:45 PM

I am ready for some Mantha next season...seriously.


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 06:08 PM

Alfie is the only free agent I'd like to keep next offseason...rest can go


I disagree let the vets go and build a new core around Pasha and Z.I'm glad Alfie is playing well but I'd rather remember him as a good player than someone who is hanging on far too long, like Teemu Selanne in Anaheim.

If Melynk has any class Ottawa should retire his number, after he hangs them up.

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#224 PavelValerievichDatsyuk

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 12:39 AM

I disagree let the vets go and build a new core around Pasha and Z.I'm glad Alfie is playing well but I'd rather remember him as a good player than someone who is hanging on far too long, like Teemu Selanne in Anaheim. If Melynk has any class Ottawa should retire his number, after he hangs them up.

Why would we drop someone who has proven he can score when we're having so much trouble score? Yes, he's 41, but he's not "holding on far too long." He's got 27 pts in 32 games. 

 

There is no doubt Alfie's number will be retired in Ottawa. Melnyk would face a public flogging otherwise.



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Posted 21 December 2013 - 01:06 AM

Alfie is producing. He is producing and looks much faster and effective than young guys like Andersson. He still puts in the hard work and doesn't float shifts like Bert does. Alfie plays hard minutes and grinds when need be. Ohya, he's also carrying the pp. 


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Posted 21 December 2013 - 02:20 AM

Alfie is producing. He is producing and looks much faster and effective than young guys like Andersson. He still puts in the hard work and doesn't float shifts like Bert does. Alfie plays hard minutes and grinds when need be. Ohya, he's also carrying the pp. 

 

Agreed. Alfie is elite. Which means, in hockey, he’s practically ageless. Sure he’s 41, but who wouldn’t take a 41 year old Lidstrom on this team right now? 

 

And yes, those 27 pts in 32 games are a big deal. He’s almost a point-per-game player this year with a team that’s struggling offensively. And it’s not like he was playing with Datsyuk right out of the gate. He was playing with a struggling Weiss and Franzen early on, and has played with Helm and Abdlekader as well. I know that he’s piling up some points on the PP. But still, pretty good year for the guy so far. Wait until he wins the cup  :ph34r:


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Posted 21 December 2013 - 04:23 AM

Why would we drop someone who has proven he can score when we're having so much trouble score? Yes, he's 41, but he's not "holding on far too long." He's got 27 pts in 32 games. 

 

There is no doubt Alfie's number will be retired in Ottawa. Melnyk would face a public flogging otherwise.

 

See and that's exactly how I want to remember him, as a great player putting up great numbers. At 40+ the decline from one year to another can be huge and that's just something I don't want to see happening to Alfredsson. I mean, the guy is already wearing an A and brings a ton of leadership which is great and much needed, given that Z is out but my point stands.

 

I hope you are right, he deserves it.

 

As for wanting an 42 old perfect human for sure who wouldn't? Having said that, I remain confident Kenny might get his oldest son, so that would mean a young Lidström for 2 decades it doesn't get better than that :)


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#228 Dabura

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 10:15 AM

No love for my roster? Obviously you guys don't know genius when you see it. (Is this what it feels like to be Ken Holland?)

 

Re: Alfie - My impression is that he's "all in" with the Wings. He left the Sens to pursue a Cup...with the Wings.


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Posted 21 December 2013 - 10:45 AM

 

See and that's exactly how I want to remember him, as a great player putting up great numbers. At 40+ the decline from one year to another can be huge and that's just something I don't want to see happening to Alfredsson. I mean, the guy is already wearing an A and brings a ton of leadership which is great and much needed, given that Z is out but my point stands.

 

I hope you are right, he deserves it.

 

As for wanting an 42 old perfect human for sure who wouldn't? Having said that, I remain confident Kenny might get his oldest son, so that would mean a young Lidström for 2 decades it doesn't get better than that :)

His oldest kid isn't all that good.



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Posted 21 December 2013 - 11:19 AM

Players should play for as long as they want and for as long as teams will pay them.



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Posted 21 December 2013 - 11:50 AM

His oldest kid isn't all that good.

 

Sure, but given who his father is he will learn and improve that's a chance I'd like to take :)


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Posted 21 December 2013 - 03:36 PM

 

Sure, but given who his father is he will learn and improve that's a chance I'd like to take :)

 

Oh if it were only that simple... lol


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Posted 21 December 2013 - 10:03 PM

I know somebody... SOMEBODY*... tossed Marion Gaborik's name into this discussion.

Here' exactly why not: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=439570

WE NEED HEALTHY GOALSCORERS.

* no offense to "somebody"
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#234 Dabura

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 12:40 PM

Wings Interested in Edler [The Fourth Period]

 

Detroit Red Wings have interest in Alex Edler [FanSided]

 

Yay!


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:02 PM

 

I'd like Edler for the right price but I wouldn't put much credence in those rumours.

 

Fansided sourcing The Fourth Period who sources the Ottawa Sun who really didn't report anything new to begin with:

 

 

The Wings have been quietly trying to bring in a top-end defenceman. Let’s face it, they haven’t had one since Nicklas Lidstrom retired and the club is going through its share of struggles. A guy the Wings may have sniffed around is Canucks’ Alex Edler, but he’s in the second year of a long-term deal and isn’t going anywhere

 

Sigh...


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#236 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:19 PM

I know somebody... SOMEBODY*... tossed Marion Gaborik's name into this discussion.

Here' exactly why not: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=439570

WE NEED HEALTHY GOALSCORERS.

* no offense to "somebody"

I was one of the guys that wanted Gaborik, but at this point I'm with you on not getting him.  He always has health issues and is a real wild card in too many ways.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:29 PM

The long term deal isn't as much of an impediment as Edler's NTC.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:40 PM

The long term deal isn't as much of an impediment as Edler's NTC.

 

Which he might waive to play with some fellow country-men that ​aren’t twin mutants. 


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:27 PM

Edler has played so poor this season he is being thrown into all the VAN trade proposals on Hf. His value is at an all time low right now. The only reason I see us getting him is because we are now in the east. But even so it would cost us one of Jurco/Tatar/Nyquist and a 1st and one of our d prospects. I'd be okay with Tatar, Almquist, 1st but not much more. We have too much promise in our young guys right now to take shortcuts and trade them.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 03:47 PM

I'd like Edler for the right price but I wouldn't put much credence in those rumours.

 

Fansided sourcing The Fourth Period who sources the Ottawa Sun who really didn't report anything new to begin with:

 

 

Sigh...

 

Oh, I know. But I like rumors, especially when we're involved. At the very least, it's better than "We like our team." Right?

 

Along similar lines:

 

Report: Sather shopping Del Zotto, Girardi, possibly others [PHT]

 

Dan Girardi!


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