Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted December 6, 2013 Hahaha that article calls Bertuzzi a star. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted December 6, 2013 Hahaha that article calls Bertuzzi a star. Wait... you mean the Sun-Sentinal isn't the all knowing authority on all things hockey? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 Weiss has not looked good tonight. His positioning has been poor - he doesn't do a good job of making himself available for the puck which seems to big a major problem. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 i cant take watching him play anymore he'd better turn it around or hes gonna be samuelsson #2 , i hope for his sake and ours hes playing hurt cause it looks like he doesnt have a care in the world , no hustle , nothing .... looks like hes just skating around the rink , doesnt look like a hockey player Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 One more observation - he is consistently first off the ice on his line and just coasts off without skating to the bench - no work ethic of late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 Weiss played almost 16 min vs NJ and I honestly remember seeing him twice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 All the progress he seemed to be making a while ago is gone. Zero confidence, zero will, all he wants to do is give the puck to someone and go change. Also his rythm is completely off, he keeps killing offense by making bad plays at the blueline that end up in offsides. 3 wings87, ben_usmc and nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 He is not playing well :/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 Maybe he just doesn't fit with the style Mike Babcock likes? So the question would then be why did they sign him for 5 years? Without the only two stars he needs to step it up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) I think he's hanging his head and feeling sorry for himself. His play is pretty uninspired. I don't know anything about the guys character so idk. It would be one thing if he was running around trying to do things and it wasn't working out but he looks like he doesn't want te puck and he wants off the ice as soon as possible Edited December 7, 2013 by joesuffP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 I don't think he can play much worse - so at least he hit rock bottom and its only up from here....? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 I don't think he can play much worse - so at least he hit rock bottom and its only up from here....? how many more games could he be this bad and we can still use the old excuse ... well "maybe a change of scenery would do him good" ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mjtm77 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 how many more games could he be this bad and we can still use the old excuse ... well "maybe a change of scenery would do him good" ?? He is a good hockey player who right now is either hurt or has an issue. Doesnt seem comfortable at all and He just is not playing well. I thought he looked decent at best tonight and maybe if he keeps getting ice time it will eventually "click" for him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) No confidence for him at all. Something is bothering him. Like others have mentioned he wants to get rid of the puck first chance he gets and be the first off the ice on every shift. Something is a miss. Yes the fact is Weiss is under pressure and should be respectively. This season so far it ain't happening for Weiss. Sad but true. Edited December 7, 2013 by St. Michael (the Red Wing) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 His play is mind-boggling. In Florida he was a heart and soul guy, a warrior fan-favorite. I don't see any of that and I was really excited to have him here. He has got to be the biggest mystery now that Franzen is back to being the Mule we all knew and loved. 2 wingfan1991 and Anijuice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 I'm still not concerned, as I think he will come around. With pav and hank out, I do hope it is sooner rather than later. But the guy went from playing in Florida to being in detroit with HBO cameras all over the place. Every 24/7 that has aired so far seemed to have teams playing like s***. Cameras following them ever where is probably a big part of that for some players. Especially a guy who played his entire career in a place that doesn't give two hoots about hockey. He'll come around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 i think once were healthy again and if weiss hasnt picked it up he will start getting scratched. or i hope he does Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 I'm still not concerned, as I think he will come around. With pav and hank out, I do hope it is sooner rather than later. But the guy went from playing in Florida to being in detroit with HBO cameras all over the place. Every 24/7 that has aired so far seemed to have teams playing like s***. Cameras following them ever where is probably a big part of that for some players. Especially a guy who played his entire career in a place that doesn't give two hoots about hockey. He'll come around. what game do you start getting concerned?? the hbo camera's just started like a week ago, hasnt been there since the start Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfan1991 221 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 He just seems unremarkable in every way. I didn't know much about him before but liked his stats and what I heard about him, but so far he's not shown much of anything. He's not fast, he's doesn't have a great shot, he's not strong on the puck, he doesn't win a lot of puck battles, he's not big or physical, he's not anything special defensively, he's not a great playmaker. I've seen a few glimpses of good stickhandling, showing he can beat a guy 1-on-1, but it's been too rare. Hope he finds his game, fast. I'm really starting to doubt he is a good fit for this team. I think this is exactly what I said after game 3 of season about him. We are what game 30 almost and it's actually worse now for me and him.. Better hurry up and prove everyone wrong and that he's worth this money. I don't think he's even remotely close to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Internet.Unknown 422 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 i think once were healthy again and if weiss hasnt picked it up he will start getting scratched. or i hope he does I don't hope for that. I hope he turns his game around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 what game do you start getting concerned?? the hbo camera's just started like a week ago, hasnt been there since the start I don't get concerned. I love the Wings, and watch every game. I root through the good times and the bad. But to get concerned because 1 player on my favourite hockey team is having trouble adjusting? Life is too short to stress over something I have no control over. We all know what he is capable of. All players go through droughts. His confidence is just not there right now, and when he finally does break through, I'm confident he will break out. He isn;t exactly the first player to go into a scoring drought. And it isn't like he is out there costing the team games night in ad night out. As long as he is playing responsible hockey, than what's to worry about? Be patient. The points will come. 1 jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 what game do you start getting concerned?? the hbo camera's just started like a week ago, hasnt been there since the start Actually they were filming for a little while at the beginning of the season as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukToZetterberg 128 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 Ah, the classic fan reaction to a new player who struggles out of the gate. Somehow, these 30 games erase every second he's ever played in the NHL. Remarkably, he was never as good as people said, or any good, for that matter. People, he didn't just forget how to play hockey overnight. We see the stat line. We get it. Beating a dead horse isn't going to make him magically produce. He's a good hockey player who did a lot with a little in Florida. If every player should be bounced 30 games into a 5-year deal for a rough stretch, no one would stick anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted December 7, 2013 His stats aren't what is most alarming. The way he looks on the ice is what is worrying. I wouldn't be surprised if he's acting all pissy because of the way Babcock is using him. He looked like a great player his first 2 shifts of the year than absolutely nothing and since his return from injury and his extra responsibility now has been even worse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted December 8, 2013 I don't get concerned. I love the Wings, and watch every game. I root through the good times and the bad. But to get concerned because 1 player on my favourite hockey team is having trouble adjusting? Life is too short to stress over something I have no control over. We all know what he is capable of. All players go through droughts. His confidence is just not there right now, and when he finally does break through, I'm confident he will break out. He isn;t exactly the first player to go into a scoring drought. And it isn't like he is out there costing the team games night in ad night out. As long as he is playing responsible hockey, than what's to worry about? Be patient. The points will come. as long as hes playing responsible hockey ? hes been playing like he doesnt have any care in the world , no hustle , nothing i hope he turns it around because he signed a 5 yr deal but i always thought he was overrated ...if he was trying hard and competing every shift i wouldnt be concerned Actually they were filming for a little while at the beginning of the season as well well couldnt of been that long , i just heard thursday on hockey central hbo camera's arrived this week film leafs players Share this post Link to post Share on other sites