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#281 dropkickshanahans

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 07:31 PM

I'm still holding out that something is wrong with Weiss physically/mentally because I just can't believe a player like him putting up 50+ for many seasons just suddenly comes to a screeching halt from a system change.

 

With that said, I'm not afraid to admit that I miss Filppula, but he's gone now. Trade for Lindholm.



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 08:28 PM

Didn't noticed it until last night.It's seems like he's more suitable for north-south hockey style.His passes goes that way,he skates that way.Would like to see him centering the 3rd line with Tatarstan & Nyquist as wingers,until Helm returns.



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 10:29 PM

this contract is looking like the worse signing of Holland's career


Which is saying something.

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 12:44 AM

Which is saying something.

 

Because he's the worst GM in the league, right? Because it's not like every GM makes bad signings, right?



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 09:36 AM

 
Because he's the worst GM in the league, right? Because it's not like every GM makes bad signings, right?


Every analyst in the world said it was a great signing, unfortunately it has not panned out this far. It's not like he signed Scott Gomez at his contract hoping he could become good again, this is another example of certain people waiting for every opportunity to go, look Holland made a big mistake Bahahaha

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 10:13 AM

Every analyst in the world said it was a great signing, unfortunately it has not panned out this far. It's not like he signed Scott Gomez at his contract hoping he could become good again, this is another example of certain people waiting for every opportunity to go, look Holland made a big mistake Bahahaha

 

let me first say, i am not one criticizing the signing. at the time i was 100% behind it. it seemed like were getting a slightly better player than flip and someone that could bring more offense. as you state, most hockey minds agreed.

 

with that said though, what we have so far isn't working. and in my opinion that is something the gm should be accountable for. at the end of the day, the gm is responsible for finding players that fit the team. they are paid to be super knowledgeable and build a staff that can evaluate talent. now, even if weiss never turns it around an this contract does turn out to be a flop, i am not implying its a fire-able offense on its own. we all make mistakes. and the idea is that over the course of times, we make more good moves than bad. but that gets to my main point on this holland tangent: has ken holland had more good moves than bad over the last 5 or so years? because in my mind he hasn't. we havent fleeced anyone in a trade, we havent had any crucial FA signings that helped our team long term, etc. so thats why holland has got into a lot of peoples dog houses. sure we are still drafting well, but even that strength is often nerfed because of holland and his over reliance on veterans. (though hopefully that has finally changed for good)

 

anyways, sorry for going off topic on that. to bring it back on topic, is there anyone on the roster that you guys think has played well with weiss so far? and that genuinely isn't a loaded question. as i have said several times, i dont see many ways out of his contract, so its in everyones best interest to help him succeed. personally, i haven't seen anyone he seemed to have any chemistry with. a few posts back someone suggested weiss needed to play a more north south game. if that is the case, who would fit that mold?


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Posted 12 December 2013 - 10:30 AM

 

let me first say, i am not one criticizing the signing. at the time i was 100% behind it. it seemed like were getting a slightly better player than flip and someone that could bring more offense. as you state, most hockey minds agreed.

 

with that said though, what we have so far isn't working. and in my opinion that is something the gm should be accountable for. at the end of the day, the gm is responsible for finding players that fit the team. they are paid to be super knowledgeable and build a staff that can evaluate talent. now, even if weiss never turns it around an this contract does turn out to be a flop, i am not implying its a fire-able offense on its own. we all make mistakes. and the idea is that over the course of times, we make more good moves than bad. but that gets to my main point on this holland tangent: has ken holland had more good moves than bad over the last 5 or so years? because in my mind he hasn't. we havent fleeced anyone in a trade, we havent had any crucial FA signings that helped our team long term, etc. so thats why holland has got into a lot of peoples dog houses. sure we are still drafting well, but even that strength is often nerfed because of holland and his over reliance on veterans. (though hopefully that has finally changed for good)

 

anyways, sorry for going off topic on that. to bring it back on topic, is there anyone on the roster that you guys think has played well with weiss so far? and that genuinely isn't a loaded question. as i have said several times, i dont see many ways out of his contract, so its in everyones best interest to help him succeed. personally, i haven't seen anyone he seemed to have any chemistry with. a few posts back someone suggested weiss needed to play a more north south game. if that is the case, who would fit that mold?

 

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 10:34 AM

 

Abby - Weiss - Tatar

 

assuming everyone was healthy, would that be the 3rd line? and what would you use for other combos?


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Posted 12 December 2013 - 10:38 AM

 

assuming everyone was healthy, would that be the 3rd line? and what would you use for other combos?

 

Z-Dats-Franzen

Nyquist - Helm - Alfredsson

Abby - Weiss - Tatar

Miller - Andersson - Old useless guy (take your pick)

 

Edit: those two bolded lines are 2a and 2b. Whatever line is playing well on ant given night, gets the most icetime.


Edited by rick zombo, 12 December 2013 - 10:40 AM.

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#290 BottleOfSmoke

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 12:45 PM

@AnsarKhanMLive: Weiss out until at least after Christmas, Holland said. They might send him to a specialist after he had MRI on groin. Will decide tonight

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 12:50 PM

 

Z-Dats-Franzen

Nyquist - Helm - Alfredsson

Abby - Weiss - Tatar

Miller - Andersson - Tootoo

 

Edit: those two bolded lines are 2a and 2b. Whatever line is playing well on ant given night, gets the most icetime.

 

 

Fixed.   ;)


Edited by GMRwings1983, 14 December 2013 - 12:50 PM.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 05:57 PM

Trade for Lindholm.

 

Happy to see I'm not the only one who wants this to happen.


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 07:01 PM

Every analyst in the world said it was a great signing, unfortunately it has not panned out this far. It's not like he signed Scott Gomez at his contract hoping he could become good again, this is another example of certain people waiting for every opportunity to go, look Holland made a big mistake Bahahaha

 

Every analyst except a couple of know-it-all posters (not you) on this site.



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Posted 14 December 2013 - 07:07 PM

@asktheduffer: Stephen Weiss officially a non-person with #RedWings. His dressing room stall now assigned to Patrick Eaves.

Wow...

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 10:55 AM

bad news gets worse....

 

Red Wings center Stephen Weiss has a sports hernia. Ken Holland said the club is deciding what to do next.


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#296 BottleOfSmoke

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 11:23 AM

:(

And "deciding what to do next" sounds very ominous, like they're considering putting him down. :lol:

I just wonder how long he's been playing with this injury. He's certainly been a disappointment, and I hope for his and our sake that it hasn't been solely due to "adjusting to a new system."

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 12:01 PM

:(

And "deciding what to do next" sounds very ominous, like they're considering putting him down. :lol:

I just wonder how long he's been playing with this injury. He's certainly been a disappointment, and I hope for his and our sake that it hasn't been solely due to "adjusting to a new system."

 

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Holland says Weiss will need surgery ultimately..decision today whether it will be now or later..now and it will take 8 weeks before return



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Posted 21 December 2013 - 12:17 PM

Do the surgery now.  There shouldn't even be another option.  Weiss is ineffective while playing with a sports hernia.  Give him plenty of time to rest and recuperate, and hopefully this can provide him with an opportunity to start from scratch and try to get his body and mind where he wants it to be before he returns to the lineup.  The contract is for several years, let's do this the right way.


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#299 GMRwings1983

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 12:30 PM

So he will be our deadline acquisition. 

 

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 12:40 PM

Great news on Weiss.

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