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#81 haroldsnepsts

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 11:48 PM

Some of you guys are making it sound like Weiss started the season on the 4th line with Cleary and Sammy. I can never remember the stats site that shows linemates but he spent time with better linemates to start the season and earned his way down the lineup.

This is a guy Babcock expected to put up 50 points. 28 games into the season he has 3.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:00 AM

not sure if its the site you are referring to, but according to behindthenet.ca, his most common linemates are cleary and franzen. 

 

i agree with you harold, people act as if he was on the 4th line when the season started. he earned these lousey minutes. and despite his recent demotion, he is still middle of the pack for forwards time on ice for ES and PP. 


I love Maltby, but to say he wasn't a ****** is a dis-service to his career of douchebaggery.


#83 b.shanafan14

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:31 AM

Weiss has been terrible, but by all accounts, he is ineligible for buy-out this summer. If that is the case, we are stuck with him and his salary for the next 4 years and change. Like it or not, we need to get SOME production out of him. Its one thing when we had Datsyuk and Zetterberg healthy and Helm and Andersson playing great, but without the first two, we should at least try him a few games in the Top-6 center position. After that, I don't know what to do. He is our disappointment until 2018, so we better figure something out.

 

Franzen-Weiss-Nyquist

Abdelkader-Helm-Alfredsson

Tatar-Andersson-Miller

Cleary-Emmerton-Samuelsson

 

Philadelphia is 29th in goals for and the Wings have been playing great team-defense lately, that could free up a line with a hot Franzen and Nyquist to help get Weiss off the shneid. And not to defend Weiss because he has been worthless since day one, but he did start the season with an equally unfamiliar-to-the-system Alfredsson and a completely invisible Franzen; maybe this time around with an engaged Franzen and the energy and skill of Nyquist will be different. Either way, we don't really have a choice but to get him going.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:24 AM

Time for Weiss to put up or shut up. Doesn't have to happen this game, but must happen over the next four.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:25 AM

Heres a nice little article reiterating his suckery this far.

http://m.bleacherrep...out-this-summer

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:31 AM

I've been as disappointed in Weiss as the next person, but I think calling for a buyout and calling it the worst FA signing in history is very premature at this point.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:32 AM

I had almost successfully forgotten (or blocked out) that the Red Wings have a $10 million fourth line.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:18 PM

I had almost successfully forgotten (or blocked out) that the Red Wings have a $10 million fourth line.


Lol pretty crazy, $10m in cap space could sign us some SERIOUSLY GOOD players..

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:26 PM

@HeleneStJames: Spoke with #RedWIngs Stephen Weiss this morning. He's very aware no Datsyuk & Zetterberg means more minutes, time to get out of funk.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:34 PM

All of the city/league will be watching Weiss throughout the next 3 games as he gets 1st line C duties for more than likey his only chance of the season.

This will undoubtedly solidify many peoples opinions on him for the rest of his time here.

REALLY HOPING HE STEPS UP!

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:38 PM

I got a real good feeling about Weiss tonight! He's too good not to get going

#92 b.shanafan14

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 02:29 PM

....

Franzen-Weiss-Nyquist

Abdelkader-Helm-Alfredsson

Tatar-Andersson-Miller

Cleary-Emmerton-Samuelsson

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http://redwings.nhl....vid=DL|DET|home Turns out this is happening, though Franzen is moving to center and Weiss playing wing. We'll see how it goes, especially since we need that line all the more.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 02:35 PM

em dog, cleary, sammy. i bet that line scores two goals tonight lol



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:33 PM

Apart from the assist - Weiss has looked unimpressive tonight. He took a boneheaded penalty in the flyers zone which lead to their tying goal. Babs has put cleary on the first line now instead. I've been defending Weiss for this entire season but at this point I just don't think he will step up - he has had a chance to show some jump but he has been very "meh" tonight. 


Is there a kickstarter campaign for Jakub Kindl to never play another NHL game?


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:38 PM

@HeleneStJames: Spoke with #RedWIngs Stephen Weiss this morning. He's very aware no Datsyuk & Zetterberg means more minutes, time to get out of funk.


LOL

get real, stephen.

you're garbage.

#96 dirtydangles

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:44 PM

Did he get a shift within the last 10 minutes? Babs moved cleary onto the top line after weiss took the penalty and rightfully so. Weiss should have come out with a lot more fire and effort than he brought. There were times he coasted rather than skating to areas of the ice where he really needed to be to help out or back check. Not impressed.


Is there a kickstarter campaign for Jakub Kindl to never play another NHL game?


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:54 PM

Coming in and having to learn the way the Wings played early, he was up and down. And apparently playing injured, then he finally comes out of the line-up for a few games. Comes back to play 10 minutes a night with Cleary and Samuelsson. Has a decent 1st 2 periods tonight, got a point. Takes a bad penalty, and then doesn't see much ice the rest of the way. I question Holland and Babs for signing Weiss in the first place, he seemed to be a perfect fit. Instead he's been mostly on the 4th line, and getting no PP time. 4.9 mil a year is too much for a guy that the team doesn't seem to be all in on. It's still early, but 4 points in 23 games isn't good enough. And Babs doesn't seem to have confidence in the guy. 


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:59 PM

Coming in and having to learn the way the Wings played early, he was up and down. And apparently playing injured, then he finally comes out of the line-up for a few games. Comes back to play 10 minutes a night with Cleary and Samuelsson. Has a decent 1st 2 periods tonight, got a point. Takes a bad penalty, and then doesn't see much ice the rest of the way. I question Holland and Babs for signing Weiss in the first place, he seemed to be a perfect fit. Instead he's been mostly on the 4th line, and getting no PP time. 4.9 mil a year is too much for a guy that the team doesn't seem to be all in on. It's still early, but 4 points in 23 games isn't good enough. And Babs doesn't seem to have confidence in the guy. 

He hasn't played with nearly the energy I saw him play with in FLA. Your energy level should show no matter where you are in lineup - see Tatar. His skating is much slower and he isn't playing the body as much. He isn't shooting much at all. I need SOMETHING from this guy to make me believe. I so badly want him to break out and I'm looking for things to compliment him on but tonight he didn't do much. The penalty he took was so dumb I couldn't believe it - was a complete game changer and I see why Babs benched him after - he needs to realize this effort is not acceptable. 


Is there a kickstarter campaign for Jakub Kindl to never play another NHL game?


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:02 PM

He hasn't played with nearly the energy I saw him play with in FLA. Your energy level should show no matter where you are in lineup - see Tatar. His skating is much slower and he isn't playing the body as much. He isn't shooting much at all. I need SOMETHING from this guy to make me believe. I so badly want him to break out and I'm looking for things to compliment him on but tonight he didn't do much. The penalty he took was so dumb I couldn't believe it - was a complete game changer and I see why Babs benched him after - he needs to realize this effort is not acceptable. 

 

You're right. I really want the guy to break out too, I was really excited when we signed Weiss because of what he had done in Florida. He doesn't look like the same guy right now, not sure what has to change to get him going. He needs to skate harder, and if he doesn't take penalties, get more and more ice. These next 4 games before Datsyuk comes back, are huge for trying to get him going.


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:05 PM

 

You're right. I really want the guy to break out too, I was really excited when we signed Weiss because of what he had done in Florida. He doesn't look like the same guy right now, not sure what has to change to get him going. He needs to skate harder, and if he doesn't take penalties, get more and more ice. These next 4 games before Datsyuk comes back, are huge for trying to get him going.

He looks like he's playing with mono out there. Tats lost 3 teeth tonight and had more heart in his little finger than Weiss did in his entire body.

 


Edited by dirtydangles, 04 December 2013 - 11:13 PM.

Is there a kickstarter campaign for Jakub Kindl to never play another NHL game?






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