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#21 dobbles

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:08 PM

when a team wins against good teams and loses to bad teams, i think thats a sign of a team that plays to the level of its competition. in other words, a team that doesn't go 100% every night because they feel they can slack against lesser competition and get away with it.

 

what worries me is that it could be the result of organizational philosophy. we all love to boast about how loyal the wings are to players. but is that a bad thing??? does it allow for players to float more and not be as accountable? i think we all have worked in jobs with lazy co-workers and that can be poisonous as others see that and then start questioning why they need to have the appropriate work ethic if others get away with slacking.


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#22 joesuffP

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:18 PM

Any team can whoop us if they pressure our D. I have to admit in the 3rd Panthers were forechecking hard and playing with a lot of speed and way more physical. Our Defense sucks it's a huge hole

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 08:04 PM

^Agreed. Our defense is not good enough. Kronwall had a really off night as well and that is never good for the Wings.The Wings need to trade Quincey, Kindl, and a prospect on a seasoned D that plays tough in front of our net and won't be pushed around. 



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 08:50 PM

Only consolation is that Tampa Bay has been consistently losing thereby inflating us at 3rd spot in the Atlantic.  



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:05 PM

Down by 1 point with 2 games in hand. I think Montreal will come back to reality though. There's no reason to not get a top 3 seed in this division.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:09 PM

The Wings always bring the best out of their opponents.. Always been that way, everyone gets up to play the Red Wings. Wish for once teams take a night off against them but no one ever seems to.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:12 PM

This is true ^^^ that's probably the best period of hockey The Panthers have played all year.

Having said that, The Wings need to be able to whether the storm. They give up huge momentum shifts and their mistakes start to pile up.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:16 PM

As others have pointed out, this team suffers from an identity crisis.  They don't do puck possession well anymore and they don't have the physicality or size to play a dump and chase, grind it out style. 

 

When you have that lack of identity, you'll have some games where the team just looks lost.  


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#29 MabusIncarnate

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 12:32 AM

Who knows, but with this mentality i'm expecting wins against Tampa and Pittsburgh. It seems like this has been an issue for a long time, it might be more balanced than it seems but we notice it more against bad teams because we go into the games anticipating an "easy win". 

I'd be interested in getting a tally at the end of the season and look back at all of this teams losses and see how many are over .500 and how many were non-contending teams.


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#30 Kmahrle83

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 06:36 PM

I guess the Wings just like taking it from the bottom.

They took it in the bottom now they here.  Took it in the bottom now the whole team ****ing here!  If they had kept it real from the (Puck) drop.  They'd be winnin every night celly's on the way home.  But no, they took it in the bottom now they here.
 

On a more serious note, I feel that this team lacks emotion.  It was only what, 3 years ago that players would at least stick up for eachother a little bit?  I don't see this anymore.  It seems anytime a player is laying on the ice, all our guys just go to the bench and ignore what happened.  Now, I don't like that good clean hits lead to fights all the time now, but for the love of god, if datsyuk is being hacked, cross checked, elbowed in the face, at least go shove the offending player around a bit.   This team looks like zombies most of the time.


Edited by Kmahrle83, 12 December 2013 - 07:10 PM.

Lets go RED WINGS!!!


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 08:44 PM

Consistency separates this team from the best teams in the league.

 

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#32 F.Michael

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 11:28 PM

 

On a more serious note, I feel that this team lacks emotion.  It was only what, 3 years ago that players would at least stick up for eachother a little bit?  I don't see this anymore.  It seems anytime a player is laying on the ice, all our guys just go to the bench and ignore what happened.  Now, I don't like that good clean hits lead to fights all the time now, but for the love of god, if datsyuk is being hacked, cross checked, elbowed in the face, at least go shove the offending player around a bit.   This team looks like zombies most of the time.

Not sure if this falls on Holland, or Babcock, or both?



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#33 Z and D for the C

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 12:46 AM

Our coaching is no longer getting the best out of our team. Period.

Just cause you look like the gimp don't mean you play like the gimp!


#34 mjtm77

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 03:05 AM

Our coaching is no longer getting the best out of our team. Period.


Wow there, we just gained a Ton of ground with these winds. We are now in playoffs. Stop letting one loss rapidly change your opinion. It's annoying as s*** around here. We just got 7 out of a possible 10 points with an injured roster.
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#35 Z and D for the C

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:04 AM

Stop letting one loss rapidly change your opinion.


I've been saying this for a long time.

Just cause you look like the gimp don't mean you play like the gimp!


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 01:13 PM

We are one elite Defenseman short of contending for a cup. I think management is just trying to get through the season. Kronner has stepped away from his highlight hits to avoid injury and forwards have taken notice and forecheck us harder than before. With Lids on, teams were afraid to pressure because no matter what an outlet pass will be the end result.

Im excited for the kids...they're so fun to watch because it's either a bonehead move or a highlight move.

We'll be alright.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 01:18 PM

And in the end, it's all about playing a full sixty-minute game.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 06:14 PM

And in the end, it's all about playing a full sixty-minute game.

 

Exactly, and what compounds the issue is that they surrendered an extra point and now have to go to Philly without their two best players.

 

Even if they are slumping, the Flyers have a lot of talent and Philly is a tough place to win for Detroit.



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 06:47 PM

We are one elite Defenseman short of contending for a cup. I think management is just trying to get through the season. Kronner has stepped away from his highlight hits to avoid suspensions and forwards have taken notice and forecheck us harder than before. With Lids on, teams were afraid to pressure because no matter what an outlet pass will be the end result.

Im excited for the kids...they're so fun to watch because it's either a bonehead move or a highlight move.

We'll be alright.

 

 

Fixed.  If he kept hitting like that he'd be in Shanny's office pretty quickly.

 

The Florida game had more to do with missing their 2 best players and leaders than anything else I think, along with Gustavsson remembering he's just a #2 goalie and not a good one like he was pretending to be earlier in the season.


Edited by DickieDunn, 27 January 2014 - 06:53 PM.

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:22 PM

 

 

Fixed.  If he kept hitting like that he'd be in Shanny's office pretty quickly.

 

The Florida game had more to do with missing their 2 best players and leaders than anything else I think, along with Gustavsson remembering he's just a #2 goalie and not a good one like he was pretending to be earlier in the season.

for sure there is no way i would want him as a starter  his lucky his record is defiying his true play which is medicore at best  Jimmy gets the shaft but clearly outplays him every game but the guys start forgeting how to score wshen jimmy is in the net i garentee if jimmy was in last night we would have won 4-1 


Edited by sjr2012, 27 January 2014 - 07:27 PM.

try to get something by me i dare you

 

 

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