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#61 datterberg1340

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:22 PM

did Ken Daniels just say, "Smoked the pipe"?



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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:22 PM

Wings aren't exactly lighting teams up either.


With all these injuries up front wings need to win games 2-1. I think when everyone is healthy our forwards can match up against anybody in the league

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:23 PM

Smoked off the pipe, I think.
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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:24 PM

Occasionally, we will have Big E or Kronner with a nice stretch pass but those are VERY rare these days. It's clear our defensemen are mostly one dimensional. To me, that's the biggest difference between 2008 and today.

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:24 PM

With all these injuries up front wings need to win games 2-1. I think when everyone is healthy our forwards can match up against anybody in the league


Yea I guess. If their PP was any damn good though they'd be winning these close games they've been losing lately.

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:26 PM

Occasionally, we will have Big E or Kronner with a nice stretch pass but those are VERY rare these days. It's clear our defensemen are mostly one dimensional. To me, that's the biggest difference between 2008 and today.


I think this is accurate. Everyone focuses on the loss of Lidstrom, but Rafalski and, to a lesser extent, Stuart were also outstandinding puck movers.
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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:27 PM

I think this is accurate. Everyone focuses on the loss of Lidstrom, but Rafalski and, to a lesser extent, Stuart were also outstandinding puck movers.


....don't forget Chellie

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:28 PM

2 pucks in the  net zero goals



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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:29 PM

They're just going to keep waiving off every goal we get

JUST BECAUSE

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:29 PM

That offside was iffy, it looked OK to me. I guess the replay will clear it up. Tatar shooting the puck was ok, imho, the whistle was after he released it.
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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:29 PM

Yea I guess. If their PP was any damn good though they'd be winning these close games they've been losing lately.


Power play was good before all these injuries and still I thought it looked good and got good chances just seemed like wings had no luck. But yes special teams has been the difference in a lot of these losses

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:30 PM

....don't forget Chellie


While I looked at Cheli as more of a defensive D late in his career, I agree he was also darn good at moving the puck.
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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:31 PM

And people think offense is our problem


Swap Quincey for Dekeyser and then they're a combined -5

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:31 PM

Occasionally, we will have Big E or Kronner with a nice stretch pass but those are VERY rare these days. It's clear our defensemen are mostly one dimensional. To me, that's the biggest difference between 2008 and today.


Very true. Sadly, some of them aren't very skilled at the other dimension either. Lashoff is fine as a defensive d-man, but Kindl and Quincey have really struggled at both ends. Smith shows spurts of being a solid puck mover.
 
 
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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:31 PM

Datsyuk has a wicked wrister he needs to try and shoot more

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:34 PM

Power play was good before all these injuries and still I thought it looked good and got good chances just seemed like wings had no luck. But yes special teams has been the difference in a lot of these losses


Agreed. Getting our top guys back will help tremendously. I think Danny D will also help at the point.

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Great save on **** Panik by Mrazek.
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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:36 PM

Always two guys all over Datsyuk his line mates gotta get into scoring areas

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:36 PM

I think this is accurate. Everyone focuses on the loss of Lidstrom, but Rafalski and, to a lesser extent, Stuart were also outstandinding puck movers.

I remember something Fedorov said to the Anaheim coach(could've been Babs?) after he started playing for them, and he was complaining that the D never passed him the puck, and Babs told him the reason they didn't give him the puck was b/c they couldn't, they didn't have the skill like he was used to having in Detroit, getting that first pass on the tape to spring him through the neutral zone with speed

 

so yeah, I agree it is a big problem with the team now- not enough d-men that can make that first outlet pass out of the zone



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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:37 PM

Passing is absolutely atrocious.

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 05:38 PM

I remember something Fedorov said to the Anaheim coach(could've been Babs?) after he started playing for them, and he was complaining that the D never passed him the puck, and Babs told him the reason they didn't give him the puck was b/c they couldn't, they didn't have the skill like he was used to having in Detroit, getting that first pass on the tape to spring him through the neutral zone with speed
 
so yeah, I agree it is a big problem with the team now- not enough d-men that can make that first outlet pass out of the zone


I vaguely remember that. We have been spoiled for years on the blueline, and most of it wasn't fully appreciated while it was here, and only now are people realizing how good we actually had it on the back end.
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