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12/19 GDT: Flames 2 @ Red Wings 3 (OT)



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#281 haroldsnepsts

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 10:01 AM

So glad the Wings won.  Alfie was buzzing all night so it's not surprising he got the winner. 

 

When Kronner was applauding the fans after the game, I wish there was a way he could've directed at only the upper bowl.  The number of empty seats in the lower bowl is beyond ridiculous. 



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Posted 20 December 2013 - 10:17 AM

So glad the Wings won.  Alfie was buzzing all night so it's not surprising he got the winner. 

 

When Kronner was applauding the fans after the game, I wish there was a way he could've directed at only the upper bowl.  The number of empty seats in the lower bowl is beyond ridiculous. 

 

It's sh*tty, there's no doubt about it.  But compared to Lions or Tigers fans, Wings fans have always been a bit fickle.  It doesn't surprise me that people aren't showing up the way we've been playing.  I mean hell, look at how many on our fan forum have sworn on and off them the last few weeks.  Now imagine the feeling of the casual suburban potential ticket buyer.  Everybody around here expects them to win, and if they don't they're chopped liver.  Sad but true.  The Wings aren't the Lions, they actually have to do something positive to get fan support.


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 10:54 AM

 

It's sh*tty, there's no doubt about it.  But compared to Lions or Tigers fans, Wings fans have always been a bit fickle.  It doesn't surprise me that people aren't showing up the way we've been playing.  I mean hell, look at how many on our fan forum have sworn on and off them the last few weeks.  Now imagine the feeling of the casual suburban potential ticket buyer.  Everybody around here expects them to win, and if they don't they're chopped liver.  Sad but true.  The Wings aren't the Lions, they actually have to do something positive to get fan support.

I agree.  Its not even that they're losing, but the way they are losing, and add to that, you're paying a buttload of cash to basically watch the Grand Rapids Griffins.  Never really liked the premise that somehow those in the nosebleed seats are "better" fans than those in the lower bowl. 



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Posted 20 December 2013 - 11:34 AM

I was at the game last night, and if I could have come down lower I might have considered it.  But I was at the top of the lower bowl behind our goal.  The one problem I have with that place is their handicapped/wheelchair seating.  It stinks.  There isn't enough room for a wheelchair to negotiate easily.  Of course a lot of people don't help much.  They push, they don't look where they are going, they run into my hubby's chair (and him), and they just don't care.  I hope this new arena (proposed) does better with handicapped/wheelchair accessibility.

 

As far as the game, though, I thought Pasha was great on that 5-on-3 situation.  They were crap calls (especially the one on Brendan Smith), but we made as much good out of it as was possible, I suppose.


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 12:57 PM

This is promising:

 

DeKeyser at the left point on 2nd power play unit with Eaves at right point. Could be DeKeyser is ready to play and Kindl may be scratched?



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Posted 20 December 2013 - 01:01 PM

I don't know about the US Kira, but here in the UK that kind of thing (disabled access) is legistlated into new buildings.

 

Meanwhile, still happy about those 2 points.  Our biggest win in a long, long time.  Maybe our biggest win since the last game of last season in Dallas.


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 01:02 PM

YES FINALLY WE BEAT A TEAM...BUT THEY'RE 13TH IN THE WEST....and we couldn't do it in regulation...

Our team may as well have played with the red and white Griffins shield jersey.   That was a hard fought win without the likes of Z, Helm, Franzen, DeKeyser, Weiss, Nyquist, Abdelkader, Howard….2 lines, and our starting goalie.  Nuff said I think.


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 02:10 PM

So glad the Wings won.  Alfie was buzzing all night so it's not surprising he got the winner. 

 

When Kronner was applauding the fans after the game, I wish there was a way he could've directed at only the upper bowl.  The number of empty seats in the lower bowl is beyond ridiculous. 

 

 

Theres always empty seats in the lower bowl. Going to a wings game, unless you're super early and dont plan on leaving your seat the whole game...Your gonna wait in lines. Large ones. The arena isn't set up for that many people to move around fluently. Everything from parking to using the restroom is a very painful activity at the JOE. People come late and leave early because theres just no room to move.



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Posted 20 December 2013 - 03:55 PM

This is promising:

 

DeKeyser at the left point on 2nd power play unit with Eaves at right point. Could be DeKeyser is ready to play and Kindl may be scratched?

that sounds good :)



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Posted 20 December 2013 - 04:43 PM

Theres always empty seats in the lower bowl. Going to a wings game, unless you're super early and dont plan on leaving your seat the whole game...Your gonna wait in lines. Large ones. The arena isn't set up for that many people to move around fluently. Everything from parking to using the restroom is a very painful activity at the JOE. People come late and leave early because theres just no room to move.


I agree that the joe is about as inconvenient of an arena as you could design these days but the level of empty seats has gone well beyond beer and bathroom lines and people leaving early.

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 06:06 PM

The DetroitRedWings have been horrible at the Joe all season long, so expecting fans to pay premium pices and show up no matter what might happen in Toronto, Montreal and Edmonton but certainly not in Hockeytown anymore. I think a part of it has to do with the fact, that this is a boring team to watch and a lot of people like blue collar hockey more than watching a bunch of veterans displaying some dimishing skills. Something I will hardly ever understand, is why people are getting blamed for leaving early? Traffic can be horrible, people have to go to work, school or collegue so they need to be well rested and prepared if that means leaving a game early, so be it. Sure, empty seats aren't nice but this can be improved easily, build a team people want to support and get behind more easily.

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 06:42 PM

This is promising:

 

DeKeyser at the left point on 2nd power play unit with Eaves at right point. Could be DeKeyser is ready to play and Kindl may be scratched?

 

This left-handed right-handed point man combination is so over-rated. We don't have Lidstrom and Holmstrom anymore and we can't even generate good offense on the PP from the point with Kronwall and Bertuzzi, so why try it with the second unit too. Just put two good offensive defensemen that can hold the puck in, create movement and let the young, creative forwards we have on that 2nd unit score.

Kindl and Smith aren't used on the PK (sometimes Smith is if another D-man is in the box), so put them on the 2nd unit. Screw the handedness - it's bulls***. 



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Posted 20 December 2013 - 07:10 PM

This left-handed right-handed point man combination is so over-rated. We don't have Lidstrom and Holmstrom anymore and we can't even generate good offense on the PP from the point with Kronwall and Bertuzzi, so why try it with the second unit too. Just put two good offensive defensemen that can hold the puck in, create movement and let the young, creative forwards we have on that 2nd unit score.
Kindl and Smith aren't used on the PK (sometimes Smith is if another D-man is in the box), so put them on the 2nd unit. Screw the handedness - it's bulls***.

Couldn't agree more. I hate when they put a forward in that position too, because you know there will be a cough up on the blue line and the forward will not stand a chance catching up. And don't get me started on Samuelsson...
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Posted 20 December 2013 - 08:09 PM

 
This left-handed right-handed point man combination is so over-rated. We don't have Lidstrom and Holmstrom anymore and we can't even generate good offense on the PP from the point with Kronwall and Bertuzzi, so why try it with the second unit too. Just put two good offensive defensemen that can hold the puck in, create movement and let the young, creative forwards we have on that 2nd unit score.
Kindl and Smith aren't used on the PK (sometimes Smith is if another D-man is in the box), so put them on the 2nd unit. Screw the handedness - it's bulls***. 


Kindl is used, and he's not good at it

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 09:02 PM

Kindl is used, and he's not good at it

 

I think he's just the least bad thing of a 2nd PP unit that is pieced together of spare parts. Especially if we're gonna take him off it and leave Eaves or Sammy on the other side just for the LH/RH combination.







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