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#1 frankgrimes

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 04:21 AM

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I fully support and understand him, if my *own* coach isn't willing to go bot bat for me, I would be having a hard time giving my all and more for him. Seriously, Jack Johnson was traded to the BLue Jackets, came in with a positive attitude and that's the kind of "thanks" he is getting from Richards ? Man if my personal coach would tell others I'm not good enough I would be changing him immediately.

 

Richards should kiss his .... thanks to players like JJ he is still having a job, yeah the guy [JJ] may not have the best season, but he is still miles better than the likes of Faulk. So how about backing him up and helping him out instead of basically throwing him under the bus ?

 

I'm starting to wonder, if team USA should change their braintrust, I think some of them can't spell the word "classy" it just isn't in  their vocabulary.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 04:42 AM

So you're saying just because JJ is playing for Richards (after all it was GM decision to trade for JJ) he must choose him over those who he thinks would be better to team USA? It is not how it works.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 08:45 AM

Jack Johnson for Kyle Quincey....get it done! :ninja:


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#4 frankgrimes

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 09:52 AM

So you're saying just because JJ is playing for Richards (after all it was GM decision to trade for JJ) he must choose him over those who he thinks would be better to team USA? It is not how it works.

 

No, but he should have had his [JJ]s back. Since Richards doesn't have that big of an influence, how about saying he is a great player, a leader on our team in my mind, he should be there, how do you [others] see it? 

 

Personally if I were JJ I would ask for a t rade.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 10:00 AM

You guys (and Johnson too) are basing all of this off an article that was specifically written to drum up controversy.  There are a million things about the selection process that Burnside could have focused on, he chose to include quote after quote about player evals...and almost exclusively negative evals I might add.  Narry a mention in there about why a particular player is a stud and exceeding expectations, but lots about why guys aren't. 

 

Point is, Richards almost certainly had a lot of good things to say about Johnson.  Who wouldn't?  Johnson is a good player.  But at the end of the day, my guess is that anything good was glossed over because the "Johnson snubbed by Team USA" story was too good to pass up. 

 

Same with Burke and Ryan, Burnside conveniently leaves out the part where Burke picks him but definitely leaves in the part where Burke criticizes him. 


GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 10:36 AM

Just shut up and play harder, he's only 26, he will get another shot at it, it's not like he's an all star though. He's not bad, but he is by no means Shea weber or zdeno chara, he is a decent top 4 guy, he wouldn't be the guy that puts his Olympic team "over the top"

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 11:04 AM

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:20 PM

Wow, he is mad. It's like somewhat lit a stick of dynomite in his jockstrap.



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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:53 PM

I guess I missed the part where Johnson was entitled to be on the Olympic team because he meets the only two qualifications necessary A) be American, and B) be Jack Johnson.  Is it his birthright?

 

He's an offensive d-man who isn't scoring, and who's never been good EVER defensively.  Johnson isn't even a competent defenseman in the NHL and in the Olympics he'd be up against All-Star teams.  No Dan Cleary's or Patrick Eaves' in Sochi. 

 

Finally, it's not like he's the only offensive d-man that didn't make the cut.  Yandle, Bfuglien, and Erik Johnson are all having better seasons than JJ, and none of them made it.  But you don't see them complaining in the news, Jack's the only that didn't make it and made a big deal about it.


Edited by kipwinger, 11 January 2014 - 11:44 AM.

GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

"Some girls are 17 even though they look 25."

 

 


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 01:09 PM

I agree that they should have told him he was cut instead of letting him find out through TV, but nothing entitles him to be on this team. Maybe if he worked harder he would be on the team right now. There's no one to blame but himself.



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Posted 09 January 2014 - 02:44 PM

Faulk is playing lights out this year whoever suggested Johnson is better should watch the game
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 03:29 PM

I think the main thing to take from this article is the unprofessionalism displayed by USA Hockey and its officials.  This type of insider information, while craved by all of us, should never be released to the public.  If after the announcement, a coach, GM, or other official wants to say "this is why we took/didn't take Player X", that's fine, but it can then be a more polished statement.  Also, players who have been part of the program for years--like Johnson--and were passed over deserved a call before the announcement.  It's just the right thing to do.



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Posted 09 January 2014 - 03:33 PM

I think the main thing to take from this article is the unprofessionalism displayed by USA Hockey and its officials.  This type of insider information, while craved by all of us, should never be released to the public.  If after the announcement, a coach, GM, or other official wants to say "this is why we took/didn't take Player X", that's fine, but it can then be a more polished statement.  Also, players who have been part of the program for years--like Johnson--and were passed over deserved a call before the announcement.  It's just the right thing to do.

 

That's the important part of the whole story. JJ is not so pissed about not being nominated, he's pissed because:

 

1. his OWN coach didn't go to bat for him - seriously, I'd expect that from my coach he expects me to go to bat for him so he should do the same for me...it's a two way street right ?

2. the way JJ found it out via TV that's just totally unprofessional, give the guy a freaking phonecall and some kind words.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 03:38 PM

 

That's the important part of the whole story. JJ is not so pissed about not being nominated, he's pissed because:

 

1. his OWN coach didn't go to bat for him - seriously, I'd expect that from my coach he expects me to go to bat for him so he should do the same for me...it's a two way street right ?

2. the way JJ found it out via TV that's just totally unprofessional, give the guy a freaking phonecall and some kind words.

Bingo

I don't care so much about the Richards not batting for him stuff... As JJ I'd expect him to put a good word in for me... but when it comes down to it Richards has to help put the best team together, and if there's a better option than his own JJ, well, that's how the cookie crumbles.



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Posted 09 January 2014 - 03:47 PM

Bingo

I don't care so much about the Richards not batting for him stuff... As JJ I'd expect him to put a good word in for me... but when it comes down to it Richards has to help put the best team together, and if there's a better option than his own JJ, well, that's how the cookie crumbles.

 

Exactly.  We're viewing this like it's a matter of family loyalty or something.  I'm sure, when they were talking about JJ they went over the pros and cons.  I imagine (like all professionals) that Richards spoke about each.  He's the guy in the best position to do so.  Followed by Lombardi (who likely did the same). 

 

Does Johnson seriously believe that Richards is supposed to laud his (mediocre) play and put him on a team that he doesn't deserve to be on just because he's his coach? 

 

I don't hear Johnson claiming that Richards should have done his all to ensure Dubinsky was on the team.  Is that his job too? 


GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

"Some girls are 17 even though they look 25."

 

 


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 07:54 PM

I thought this thread would be about J.J. Daigneault.     :confused:

 

 

In any case, these players should think twice before calling anyone out.  There might very well be injuries until the Olympics that would prompt calling Johnson.  I remember Samuelsson running his mouth a few years ago at Sweden's selection committee.  


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 08:07 PM

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 09:41 PM

I had heard that Jack Johnson had an attitude problem and that it was no coincidence that the LA Kings flourished after they got rid of him.  



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 01:14 AM

I had heard that Jack Johnson had an attitude problem and that it was no coincidence that the LA Kings flourished after they got rid of him.  

 

Considering he's being very vocal about how mad he is he didn't make the team, I'm not surprised he has an attitude problem. :P


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 07:58 AM

I guess I missed the part where Johnson was entitled to be on the Olympic team because he meets the only two qualifications necessary A) be American, and B) be Jack Johnson.  Is it his birthright?

 

He's an offensive d-man who isn't scoring, and who's never been good EVER defensively.  Johnson isn't even a competent defenseman in the NHL and in the Olympics he'd be up against All-Star teams.  No Dan Cleary's or Patrick Eaves' in Sochi. 

 

Finally, it's not like he's the only offensive d-man that didn't make the cut.  Yandle, Bfuglien, and Erik Johnson are all having better seasons than JJ, and none of them made it.  But you don't see them complaining in the news, Jack's the only one that didn't make it and made a big deal about it.

 

 

 

That's the important part of the whole story. JJ is not so pissed about not being nominated, he's pissed because:

 

1. his OWN coach didn't go to bat for him - seriously, I'd expect that from my coach he expects me to go to bat for him so he should do the same for me...it's a two way street right ?

2. the way JJ found it out via TV that's just totally unprofessional, give the guy a freaking phonecall and some kind words.

 

Somebody hold JJ's hand while he puts his big boy pants on.  *sheesh*  Even Bobby Ryan didn't cry this much when he was snubbed.


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