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#21 Playmaker

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 08:40 AM

I don't really think he, or anyone else is "owed" a phone call.  You announce the team, if you don't hear your name, you're not on the team.  So are they supposed to call 20 or 50 guys who are eligible and pat them on the head and explain things?  I can't recall on any team ever calling someone or whatever and telling them they didn't make the team.  There are tryouts, the team is posted, the end.  



#22 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 02:43 PM

http://bluejacketsxt...es-johnson.html

 

I fully support and understand him, if my *own* coach isn't willing to go bot bat for me, I would be having a hard time giving my all and more for him. Seriously, Jack Johnson was traded to the BLue Jackets, came in with a positive attitude and that's the kind of "thanks" he is getting from Richards ? Man if my personal coach would tell others I'm not good enough I would be changing him immediately.

 

Richards should kiss his .... thanks to players like JJ he is still having a job, yeah the guy [JJ] may not have the best season, but he is still miles better than the likes of Faulk. So how about backing him up and helping him out instead of basically throwing him under the bus ?

 

I'm starting to wonder, if team USA should change their braintrust, I think some of them can't spell the word "classy" it just isn't in  their vocabulary.

USA is bringing homer picks in Orpik and Martin instead of Johnson and Bogosian.

Canada is bringing Kunitz, Nash and Subban to keep the bench warm instead of Couture, St. Louis and Seabrook.

Sweden is bringing Tallinder instead of Hedman or Brodin. 

 

I'm wondering which team has "braintrust".

 

Either way, Bobby Ryan was completely blasted by Burke and was very smart about everything he said.  Jack Johnson is a whiny tool.  While he's a good player, there's still guys that the USA team could put that are better than him.


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#23 haroldsnepsts

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 02:44 PM

I had heard that Jack Johnson had an attitude problem and that it was no coincidence that the LA Kings flourished after they got rid of him.  

 

I never heard anything about an attitude problem when he was with LA, but there was definitely a lot of buzz about trading him for the whole year before they pulled the trigger.  He's got a lot of skills but had terrible decision making.

 

Trading one of their more offensive D-men when the Kings were already having trouble scoring seemed like a crazy move, but their defense definitely improved in his absence. 

 

I was surprised when some GM in the article mentioned taking a d-man with  more defensive upside like J Johnson if they passed on Yandle.  Admittedly I haven't seen much of Johnson this season but I wouldn't consider him having a ton more defensive ability than Yandle.



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 10:42 PM

 

I never heard anything about an attitude problem when he was with LA, but there was definitely a lot of buzz about trading him for the whole year before they pulled the trigger.  He's got a lot of skills but had terrible decision making.

 

Trading one of their more offensive D-men when the Kings were already having trouble scoring seemed like a crazy move, but their defense definitely improved in his absence. 

 

I was surprised when some GM in the article mentioned taking a d-man with  more defensive upside like J Johnson if they passed on Yandle.  Admittedly I haven't seen much of Johnson this season but I wouldn't consider him having a ton more defensive ability than Yandle.

 

You add a natural center/capable winger in Carter... and Voynov, who's still an offensive-defenseman but better decision maker, gets better/more minutes... team play/defense is going to get better.

 

Attitude issues, current Team USA issues aside, seem overblown.  Lombardi did do himself a disservice by criticizing JJ's time at U of M and had to do some damage control/re-assertion that Johnson was a player of note. Hell, he drafted the guy after college... so he must have seen something in the guy even though he went to U of M.  ...and still, to this day, he went out of his way to amend the situation.  My snotty "big-boy pants" comments are maybe a little childish, but Johnson seems to be a bit sensitive and maybe he does need his hand held a bit when it comes to his feelings, pride in country, alma mater, etc. 

...but Johnson didn't get traded from the Kings because of his attitude issues. 

He got traded because the Kings had better offensive defensemen and they could get Carter for him. NO-BRAINER!! 

 

Nice guy or not, no one would blink twice if offensive-minded Kindl (also snubbed by his national team) got traded for a top-six winger and our defense and all around play got better.

So who gives a hoot about Jack friggin'Johnson?


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 03:15 AM

 

You add a natural center/capable winger in Carter... and Voynov, who's still an offensive-defenseman but better decision maker, gets better/more minutes... team play/defense is going to get better.

 

Attitude issues, current Team USA issues aside, seem overblown.  Lombardi did do himself a disservice by criticizing JJ's time at U of M and had to do some damage control/re-assertion that Johnson was a player of note. Hell, he drafted the guy after college... so he must have seen something in the guy even though he went to U of M.  ...and still, to this day, he went out of his way to amend the situation.  My snotty "big-boy pants" comments are maybe a little childish, but Johnson seems to be a bit sensitive and maybe he does need his hand held a bit when it comes to his feelings, pride in country, alma mater, etc. 

...but Johnson didn't get traded from the Kings because of his attitude issues. 

He got traded because the Kings had better offensive defensemen and they could get Carter for him. NO-BRAINER!! 

 

Nice guy or not, no one would blink twice if offensive-minded Kindl (also snubbed by his national team) got traded for a top-six winger and our defense and all around play got better.

So who gives a hoot about Jack friggin'Johnson?

 

To be clear, when the deal was actually finalized it makes perfect sense.  But Johnson was in trade talks a lot of that season.  I just meant at the time it seemed counter intuitive to trade an offensive d-man.  But Carter was exactly what the Kings needed.

 

Voynov definitely made it easy for them to let Johnson go.  And I would do a happy dance if Kindl got traded for a top six winger.



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:45 AM

 

To be clear, when the deal was actually finalized it makes perfect sense.  But Johnson was in trade talks a lot of that season.  I just meant at the time it seemed counter intuitive to trade an offensive d-man.  But Carter was exactly what the Kings needed.

 

Voynov definitely made it easy for them to let Johnson go.  And I would do a happy dance if Kindl got traded for a top six winger.

 

That's definitely true, but then again I'd do a happy dance if Kindl produced like the Kings' era Jack Johnson too.


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