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#41 newfy

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 04:08 PM

I'm excited by this next wave of prospects due up, and would definitely be up for having Callahan get his cup of coffee in Detroit. 

 

By the way, what's the scoop on Ferraro? 

Ferraro is a speedy player. Hes got grit and will throw his weight around. He looks like Helm out there before Helm started scoring a lot. But lately he has been off his game, even Kaiser the griffs announcer who is a masive homer mentioned how he needs to step it up. Hes a really good PKer and will scrap a bit as well.

 

Realistically, Callahan and Ferraro would make the wings fourth line very fun to watch and interesting in the future. Both have above average speed, are pretty big hitters, both agitate and Callahan is a pretty solid fighter (Ferraro is alright and willing, not the best though). Both have skill though that makes them desireable. Both are good defensive players (Callahan is better 5 on 5, Ferraro on the PK) and both can PK really well. They each would add speed to the line up and a bit of a scoring touch. Theyre the type of energy guys that can make a really good fourth line that can be counted on, not a bunch of cast offs like the wings have right now.

 

Pretty much they would each give the wings more speed and toughness while not being a step down defensively and most likely better in the future than what the wings have right now. I would say Sheahan is starting to separate himself from these 2 with the call ups hes getting, but both these guys should at least have fourth line NHL futures. The only vet that the wings should consider bringing back is Alfie to get these young guys up and start giving the wings bottom 6 an identity


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 08:48 PM

I'm just looking forward to seeing ~&~ play.
He was exciting when he was just Steve.

 

 

Oh my lord!

 

Hahahhahahaahhaaha!!! The fact that this was slipped in there AFTER everyone sort of returned to the normal conversation for awhile is HYSTERICAL.

 

Well played and excellent humor!



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 09:28 PM

 
 
Oh my lord!
 
Hahahhahahaahhaaha!!! The fact that this was slipped in there AFTER everyone sort of returned to the normal conversation for awhile is HYSTERICAL.
 
Well played and excellent humor!


Ha. thanks.
I was laughing so hard at it, that I felt I'd throw it in.
My gf asked what in gods name i was laughing at, and being a casual fan, she didnt get it. so i felt I had to share to someone.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 11:52 PM

I don't know about that.  He's still a grinder and projected fourth liner.  If Griffins stats were that relevant, Emmerton would be our next big prospect with his points/game.
 
Callahan gets a lot of dirty goals.  Hope he's at least given a shot next year.



The problem is we have so many fourth line players as it is. And Hollands love affair with cleary and Sammy and what not. There might not be room. If tootoo, Sammy, cleary, Bert, eaves and emmerton are gone then I personally would love a sheahan glendening and Callahan fourth. I just don't see it happening and I think Callahan and Ferraro will be the odd men out.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 12:53 AM

This is the first (I am ashamed to say) I'm hearing the handle "Dirty Harry" for him but it's awesome. I just called him Mitchum for some reason...I like Dirty Harry a lot more haha
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Posted 11 January 2014 - 04:11 AM

Not only do I log onto LGW at least once per day and have never heard Callahan referred to as Dirty Harry, but LGW isn't meant to cater exclusively to hardcore forum posters. Nicknames are supposed to make it easier to discuss the team, not to prove how funny and clever you are. Making up nicknames that no one else uses is obnoxious and unnecessary. Watch...

 

It looks like Yellow Mustard is going to miss some time after catching that elbow last night against the Sabres. Its really bad timing too, because our defense already thin with Big Poppa out with a concussion and Bandit serving his 5 game suspension. I would say this forces us to call up someone from GR, most likely Billy the Kid or The Player Formerly Known As Steve. We might be in trouble on the back end until we get some regulars back, since this leaves the Boogeyman as our #1 defenseman. And you know what that means!!!!

 

Boogeyman - Hot Topic

Heebie Jeebies - Dances with Wolves

My Little Pony - Agent Orange

~&~ (The Player Formerly Known As Steve)

 

Hahahaha, this is brilliant! :lol:  We need to use some of these names for players who don't currently have nicknames.

 

I'm thinking My Little Pony = Kindl (seems appropriate somehow)

 

Agent Orange = Smith (Agent Smith...)

 

Dances With Wolves = Cleary (used to be really good, now he's gone all Waterworld)

 

Any more for any more?


Edited by Nev, 11 January 2014 - 04:12 AM.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 05:17 AM

No love for Teemu Pulkkinen? He's doing great his first season in NA.


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 07:30 AM

No love for Teemu Pulkkinen? He's doing great his first season in NA.


I've been high on this guy since the draft, hope he can continue at the rate he could be a future star. I've always though that he would either eventually play in the wings top 6 or completely disappear.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 11:49 AM

No love for Teemu Pulkkinen? He's doing great his first season in NA.

 

I read an article about him the other day and the gist of it was that while he's scoring pretty well, his defensive game is still pretty poor, which I imagine is why he hasn't been called up. 


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 01:17 PM

The problem is we have so many fourth line players as it is. And Hollands love affair with cleary and Sammy and what not. There might not be room. If tootoo, Sammy, cleary, Bert, eaves and emmerton are gone then I personally would love a sheahan glendening and Callahan fourth. I just don't see it happening and I think Callahan and Ferraro will be the odd men out.

The problem with the "fourth line players" the wings have now is that they arent actual fourth liners. A fourth line should provide energy, some grit and defensive play at least. Instead the wings are putting washed up skilled guys who didnt play a fourth line role their whole career in the bottom 6. Emmerton is a scorer who cant score, hes not good on the PK, draws and not physical. Sammy is the biggest waste of space ever, hes so slow and still tries to stick handle around everyone like hes a top 6 player, Cleary is ridiculously old and broken down (and not even scratched ever) and even Eaves doesnt do much out there. Hes injury prone and redundant.

 

You take out those guys who are filler and put in specialist types and the fourth line would have an identity. Sheahan is the big, defensive center that can chip in some offense and is a great PK guy, Callahan will piss the other team off, throw big hits, fight a bit and is a really good PK guy and Glendening is a bit of a balance of the two. He agitates a little and plays a bit physical but is also more defensive minded. I consider Callahan and Glendening fast and Sheahan solid speed wise. Theyre all young and want to prove smoething as well. What is Samuelsson or Cleary playing for? Theyre handed a spot on the team and have made their millions over their careers. Need some guys who are hungry which all three of those would be, and would likely feed off each others energy


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 02:11 PM

The problem with the "fourth line players" the wings have now is that they arent actual fourth liners. A fourth line should provide energy, some grit and defensive play at least. Instead the wings are putting washed up skilled guys who didnt play a fourth line role their whole career in the bottom 6. Emmerton is a scorer who cant score, hes not good on the PK, draws and not physical. Sammy is the biggest waste of space ever, hes so slow and still tries to stick handle around everyone like hes a top 6 player, Cleary is ridiculously old and broken down (and not even scratched ever) and even Eaves doesnt do much out there. Hes injury prone and redundant.

 

You take out those guys who are filler and put in specialist types and the fourth line would have an identity. Sheahan is the big, defensive center that can chip in some offense and is a great PK guy, Callahan will piss the other team off, throw big hits, fight a bit and is a really good PK guy and Glendening is a bit of a balance of the two. He agitates a little and plays a bit physical but is also more defensive minded. I consider Callahan and Glendening fast and Sheahan solid speed wise. Theyre all young and want to prove smoething as well. What is Samuelsson or Cleary playing for? Theyre handed a spot on the team and have made their millions over their careers. Need some guys who are hungry which all three of those would be, and would likely feed off each others energy

Well, first up 3 of the 4 players you name are miles down the depth chart and are only playing because of all the injuries.  Emmerton and Eaves have already been waived once, and the only reason Sammy hasn't been waived is cos it only saves 100k.

 

Our real 4th line is Miller/Andersson/X.  Of course, you'll hate them both because its not fighter/fighter/fighter, but the fact is that they are both key components of what is actually one of the best PK's in the league.


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 02:20 PM

Well, first up 3 of the 4 players you name are miles down the depth chart and are only playing because of all the injuries.  Emmerton and Eaves have already been waived once, and the only reason Sammy hasn't been waived is cos it only saves 100k.
 
Our real 4th line is Miller/Andersson/X.  Of course, you'll hate them both because its not fighter/fighter/fighter, but the fact is that they are both key components of what is actually one of the best PK's in the league.

the 100k and a roster spot sounds good to me
Hopefully once the season is over and a few of the Griffins move up, guys like Jarnkrok...Pulkinnen and Frk will get a ton more playing time

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 02:29 PM

I was talking with darkmanx whilst playing NHL 14 last night which generally turns into what we think the Wings should do and we both love the prospect of a 4th line next year of Sheahan-Glendening-Callahan.  Put that under a 3rd line of Abs-Helm-Jurco and you have yourself a pretty nasty bottom 6.  Something the Wings have been lacking for about 4 years now.


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 02:34 PM

I was talking with darkmanx whilst playing NHL 14 last night which generally turns into what we think the Wings should do and we both love the prospect of a 4th line next year of Sheahan-Glendening-Callahan.  Put that under a 3rd line of Abs-Helm-Jurco and you have yourself a pretty nasty bottom 6.  Something the Wings have been lacking for about 4 years now.


Where would miller Anderson and too too be? I'm sure there is more that I'm forgetting but do you see the problem we have right now? Thanks Holland.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 03:02 PM

Where would miller Anderson and too too be? I'm sure there is more that I'm forgetting but do you see the problem we have right now? Thanks Holland.

Miller would be UFA this summer I believe as well as Andersson and Tootoo will be buried in GR cause of Holland, though I'd love him on that 3rd line with Abs and Helm with Jurco in the top 6. Callahan is either on the Wings next year or is an FA with apparently no option to return to GR.  Same goes for Sheahan I believe.  And personally, I see more value in those 2 than Miller and Andersson.

 

Edit: Scrap that....thought they were UFA at the end of the year.  Miller signed for 3 and Andersson for 2.  So to answer your last question about where they'd be?  Maybe GR cause we have better players to fill their roster spots.  


Edited by Z Winged Dangler, 11 January 2014 - 03:04 PM.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 04:52 PM

Miller would be UFA this summer I believe as well as Andersson and Tootoo will be buried in GR cause of Holland, though I'd love him on that 3rd line with Abs and Helm with Jurco in the top 6. Callahan is either on the Wings next year or is an FA with apparently no option to return to GR.  Same goes for Sheahan I believe.  And personally, I see more value in those 2 than Miller and Andersson.

 

Edit: Scrap that....thought they were UFA at the end of the year.  Miller signed for 3 and Andersson for 2.  So to answer your last question about where they'd be?  Maybe GR cause we have better players to fill their roster spots.  

 

I don't feel that we should just 'bury' Andersson and Miller. No way. Miller has been solid all year and consistent. IMO I think Andersson may be on par with his play from last year, but probably because I haven't noticed him so much. But then, that's also usually a good thing. 

 

Someone will have to be traded is the bottom line. There simply isn't room for everyone, and that is probably the reason why we are seeing so many different young guys being called up every time there is an injury. This way, management gets a good look at everyone so the right decisions can be made next season. 

 

In many ways I'm hoping the only UFA who will be re-signed is Alfredsson, but I have a hunch that Bert will get a 1 year deal also. 

 

Even if we re-sign all the RFAs on our current NHL roster, there's only room for 3 more guys. Regardless, it will be an exciting year.  


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 06:01 PM

Well, first up 3 of the 4 players you name are miles down the depth chart and are only playing because of all the injuries.  Emmerton and Eaves have already been waived once, and the only reason Sammy hasn't been waived is cos it only saves 100k.

 

Our real 4th line is Miller/Andersson/X.  Of course, you'll hate them both because its not fighter/fighter/fighter, but the fact is that they are both key components of what is actually one of the best PK's in the league.

No I dont actually mind Miller because hes been PKing well. Anyone who has watched Andersson should be able to tel easily that Sheahan will be a better NHL player. As for Ferraro and Callahan, Ferraro would definitely be an upgrade on the PK, team speed and fairly similar at even strength. Callahan next season might not be quite as good but hes a different player. He'll be fine on the PK, add mroe speed to the line up and has shown he can score goals.

 

I like how you pick out about one thing I said each of them do and think thats the reason. Maybe go back and sound it out a little clearer where I'm talking about team speed, PK ability and more hunger. On top of that I mentioned they would be tougher. Giving waiver fodder guys like Miller 3 year deals is dumb because they know they have their contract. Put Sheahan, Ferraro or Callahan out there and theyll have something to prove every night and their play will show it


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 10:19 PM

 

Emmerton never had more than 12 goals in a season and really only ever put up modest production.  He was by no means considered "the next big thing" based on his AHL totals (because they weren't that impressive).  While Callahan is definitely out performing expectations, I don't think that comparing him to a center that never produced much is fair.  It's not unreasonable to think that Mitch could put up 20-25 goals this season, which is impressive for anyone at the AHL level.  If most of those come from crashing the net, all the better.  I don't think he'll be a force in the NHL or anything, but his knack for the net shouldn't be marginalized either.

I would definitely not be against a guy that drives and crashes the net instead of our constant perimeter attack.  I really hope Callahan is on our 4th line next season.


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 10:31 PM

Ferraro is a speedy player. Hes got grit and will throw his weight around. He looks like Helm out there before Helm started scoring a lot. But lately he has been off his game, even Kaiser the griffs announcer who is a masive homer mentioned how he needs to step it up. Hes a really good PKer and will scrap a bit as well.

 

Realistically, Callahan and Ferraro would make the wings fourth line very fun to watch and interesting in the future. Both have above average speed, are pretty big hitters, both agitate and Callahan is a pretty solid fighter (Ferraro is alright and willing, not the best though). Both have skill though that makes them desireable. Both are good defensive players (Callahan is better 5 on 5, Ferraro on the PK) and both can PK really well. They each would add speed to the line up and a bit of a scoring touch. Theyre the type of energy guys that can make a really good fourth line that can be counted on, not a bunch of cast offs like the wings have right now.

 

Pretty much they would each give the wings more speed and toughness while not being a step down defensively and most likely better in the future than what the wings have right now. I would say Sheahan is starting to separate himself from these 2 with the call ups hes getting, but both these guys should at least have fourth line NHL futures. The only vet that the wings should consider bringing back is Alfie to get these young guys up and start giving the wings bottom 6 an identity

I agree. I like the idea of having youth, speed, and physicality in the bottom 6. We have the worst bottom 6 identity of any Wings team I can remember. Currently we are playing slow, aging, and soft players in the bottom 6. Those kids would relish the opportunity to go hard for the duration of the 4th line minutes and try to earn their playing time. A bottom 6 next year of this would be awesome in terms of energy and effort - with some young guys developing on the 4th line:

 

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Alfie?

Nyquist-Weiss-Franzen

Tatar-Helm-Abby

Miller-Sheahan-Ferraro

Glendening, Callahan (rotating in on a fair basis with Ferraro and Glendening)


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 11:22 PM

 

I don't feel that we should just 'bury' Andersson and Miller. No way. Miller has been solid all year and consistent. IMO I think Andersson may be on par with his play from last year, but probably because I haven't noticed him so much. But then, that's also usually a good thing. 

 

Someone will have to be traded is the bottom line. There simply isn't room for everyone, and that is probably the reason why we are seeing so many different young guys being called up every time there is an injury. This way, management gets a good look at everyone so the right decisions can be made next season. 

 

In many ways I'm hoping the only UFA who will be re-signed is Alfredsson, but I have a hunch that Bert will get a 1 year deal also. 

 

Even if we re-sign all the RFAs on our current NHL roster, there's only room for 3 more guys. Regardless, it will be an exciting year.  

The main knock I have on Miller and Andersson is that they're both slow and both don't use that size they have.  Whereas Sheahan and Callahan do and have more offensive upside.  They would be better energy guys for the bottom 6.


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