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#41 ami

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 08:24 PM

What are you talking about?

 

It clearly was UNINTENTIONAL!

 

just ask Cowen ans Shanny.



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:50 AM

Oops

Edited by The Greek, 12 January 2014 - 11:05 AM.


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 11:06 AM

 
A dive doesn't.  Diving over and over and over again deserves something akin to an elbow.  Have you never watched Pavelski play?  


Have you ever watched pavelski play? Cleary elbowed Hannan.

Even if it was pavelski, it's pretty sad that you think repeated dives deserve to be met with violence. Think about it for a moment. Is that something you would say to me if we had just met in a sports bar? I doubt it.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 12:48 PM

Have you ever watched pavelski play? Cleary elbowed Hannan.

Even if it was pavelski, it's pretty sad that you think repeated dives deserve to be met with violence. Think about it for a moment. Is that something you would say to me if we had just met in a sports bar? I doubt it.

 

Yeah.  I would tell you that I wish Cleary had elbowed Pavelski instead.  

 

Have you ever watched Pavelski play?  He's a diver.  


Edited by GMRwings1983, 12 January 2014 - 12:48 PM.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 12:55 PM

While Cleary's hit was a total cheap shot I can't help but wonder whether the posters calling for Cleary's suspension would do the same if Cleary had 15 goals or if Kronwall or Z did what Cleary had done.  


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 03:36 AM

Have you ever watched pavelski play? Cleary elbowed Hannan.

Even if it was pavelski, it's pretty sad that you think repeated dives deserve to be met with violence. Think about it for a moment. Is that something you would say to me if we had just met in a sports bar? I doubt it.

Have you ever been in a sports bar?

 

Guys swilling beer, and inhaling nachos while watching sports on tv aren't likely to discuss quantum physics, nor quote Shakespeare.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 09:16 AM

Have you ever watched pavelski play? Cleary elbowed Hannan.

Even if it was pavelski, it's pretty sad that you think repeated dives deserve to be met with violence. Think about it for a moment. Is that something you would say to me if we had just met in a sports bar? I doubt it.


If I had the opportunity I would elbow pavelski and couture in the face

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 10:05 AM

Some of you need to grow a pair. Pavelski is one of the biggest diving babies in the game along with jumbo joke. They both need a good stick to the back of the legs or an elbow to the head. I would hate for some of you to actually sit down and watch some of the old games when elbowing was part of the game. You guys would faint like girls.

 

As far as Cleary. I was surprised he didn't get any games with the way this league is headed but oh well.


Edited by hillbillywingsfan, 13 January 2014 - 10:06 AM.

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 05:46 PM

Some of you guy should not be allowed out in public. It's really embarrassing that a group of grown men think wanton violence is acceptable, especially as a response to a non-violent act.

@eirotwins: good for you. You should be proud of the fact that you would violently attack someone that has never done anything to you.

@F. Michael: you don't have to be quoting Shakespeare in order to act like a decent person. Calling for a violent attack on another person falls outside the realm of decency. Most people try to act decently when not hiding behind a screen-name. That was the point of the sports-bar analogy. You can substitute a sports bar with any other public setting in which people discuss sports.

@GMR: I wasn't sticking up for pavelski, I hate the guy. However, he hasn't done anything that warrants an elbow to the face.

Edited by The Greek, 14 January 2014 - 05:57 PM.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 05:52 PM

did cleary even get a talking to regarding this?  i havent heard any news at all.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 08:15 PM

did cleary even get a talking to regarding this?  i havent heard any news at all.

 

I think the talking to he's gotten here on LGW is worse than anything the league has done.    :hehe:


Some of you guy should not be allowed out in public. It's really embarrassing that a group of grown men think wanton violence is acceptable, especially as a response to a non-violent act.

@eirotwins: good for you. You should be proud of the fact that you would violently attack someone that has never done anything to you.

@F. Michael: you don't have to be quoting Shakespeare in order to act like a decent person. Calling for a violent attack on another person falls outside the realm of decency. Most people try to act decently when not hiding behind a screen-name. That was the point of the sports-bar analogy. You can substitute a sports bar with any other public setting in which people discuss sports.

@GMR: I wasn't sticking up for pavelski, I hate the guy. However, he hasn't done anything that warrants an elbow to the face.

 

People act decently in bars?  Not here in the Midwest they don't.   


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 08:21 PM

 
I think Henrik Zetterberg is also pretty good.

Hes good.
But have you seen the captain, Henrik Zetterberg, he's pretty talented.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:58 AM

Some of you guy should not be allowed out in public. It's really embarrassing that a group of grown men think wanton violence is acceptable, especially as a response to a non-violent act.

@eirotwins: good for you. You should be proud of the fact that you would violently attack someone that has never done anything to you.

@F. Michael: you don't have to be quoting Shakespeare in order to act like a decent person. Calling for a violent attack on another person falls outside the realm of decency. Most people try to act decently when not hiding behind a screen-name. That was the point of the sports-bar analogy. You can substitute a sports bar with any other public setting in which people discuss sports.

@GMR: I wasn't sticking up for pavelski, I hate the guy. However, he hasn't done anything that warrants an elbow to the face.

So - you're in a public setting - lets say the Joe Louis Arena...A fight breaks out between players on the ice, and a fan nearby you  screams out 'kick his f-ing ass'...Now seriously - you'd feel offended, or somehow insulted by such 'lewd' behavior?


Edited by F.Michael, 15 January 2014 - 11:55 AM.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 08:44 AM

So - you're in a public setting - lets say the Joe Louis Arena...A fight breaks out between players on the ice, and a fan nearby you  screams out 'kick his f-ing ass'...Now seriously - you'd feel offended, or somehow insulted by such 'lewd' behavior?


I wouldn't be offended in the least, but this isn't about me. This about the type of society in which we want to live. If at your age, you don't see what's wrong with that kind of behavior in a public place, especially one in which children are present, then there's nothing I can do to help you.

As far as decency in bars go, that wasn't the best analogy in my part, but don't equate being a Midwesterner with being crass. I see us in a different light. I see Midwesterners as hardworking, salt of the earth types. We're not Neanderthals.

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 09:31 AM

I wouldn't be offended in the least, but this isn't about me. This about the type of society in which we want to live. If at your age, you don't see what's wrong with that kind of behavior in a public place, especially one in which children are present, then there's nothing I can do to help you.

As far as decency in bars go, that wasn't the best analogy in my part, but don't equate being a Midwesterner with being crass. I see us in a different light. I see Midwesterners as hardworking, salt of the earth types. We're not Neanderthals.

I hear what you're saying, and agree with you in regards to the overall conduct of people in general, but we're not discussing behavior on the city street are we? No - we're discussing what takes place on the ice at an NHL game; keep in mind the incidents involving Bertuzzi/Moore, and McSorley/Brashear ended up in fines/suspensions, and no time behind bars.

 

This more or less perpetuates the violence we see at an NHL/AHL game, and as a fan - calling for an opponents head is not out of the ordinary.

 

Now - if there's a sport/fan base that's outta whack - you do not need to look any further than soccer, and their hooligans...A very good movie was made based from the experience of an American as he followed/supported West Ham United; 'Green Street Hooligans'.

 

Soccer hooligans make us 'Knuckle Draggers' here at LGW  look like a bunch of snot-nosed little punks.



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Posted 16 January 2014 - 04:49 PM

McSorley didn't actually do time behind bars for his incident, but he WAS charged with, tried, and found guilty of assault with a weapon in a court of law and sentenced to probation.


Edited by sleepwalker, 16 January 2014 - 04:50 PM.


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 04:55 PM

I hear what you're saying, and agree with you in regards to the overall conduct of people in general, but we're not discussing behavior on the city street are we? No - we're discussing what takes place on the ice at an NHL game; keep in mind the incidents involving Bertuzzi/Moore, and McSorley/Brashear ended up in fines/suspensions, and no time behind bars.

 

This more or less perpetuates the violence we see at an NHL/AHL game, and as a fan - calling for an opponents head is not out of the ordinary.

 

Now - if there's a sport/fan base that's outta whack - you do not need to look any further than soccer, and their hooligans...A very good movie was made based from the experience of an American as he followed/supported West Ham United; 'Green Street Hooligans'.

 

Soccer hooligans make us 'Knuckle Draggers' here at LGW  look like a bunch of snot-nosed little punks.

 

Yea 'soccer' fans (termed football over here) are absolutely ridiculous. They segregate the Home and Away fans at every ground. Ridiculous. Absolutely hate the professional game. But I don't want to get started on a football rant…...


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 11:58 PM

I hear what you're saying, and agree with you in regards to the overall conduct of people in general, but we're not discussing behavior on the city street are we? No - we're discussing what takes place on the ice at an NHL game; keep in mind the incidents involving Bertuzzi/Moore, and McSorley/Brashear ended up in fines/suspensions, and no time behind bars.

 

This more or less perpetuates the violence we see at an NHL/AHL game, and as a fan - calling for an opponents head is not out of the ordinary.

 

Now - if there's a sport/fan base that's outta whack - you do not need to look any further than soccer, and their hooligans...A very good movie was made based from the experience of an American as he followed/supported West Ham United; 'Green Street Hooligans'.

 

Soccer hooligans make us 'Knuckle Draggers' here at LGW  look like a bunch of snot-nosed little punks.

 

Cleary lucky to not get suspended for a clear cheap shot, but the league has set its precedent.

 

As for the film Green Street....its really not very good....thankfully those days of hooliganism are mostly in the past in the UK (check out Germany/Holland and Eastern Europe for current violence), but trust me, some the old hoolies i've had the dubious pleasure of meeting would have taken about 5 minutes to hospitalise everyone in that film. Really scary psychos a lot of them..



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Posted 19 January 2014 - 10:50 AM

As far as decency in bars go, that wasn't the best analogy in my part, but don't equate being a Midwesterner with being crass. I see us in a different light. I see Midwesterners as hardworking, salt of the earth types. We're not Neanderthals.

 

Actually, modern genetics has revealed that most people, except those of African descent, have 1-5% or a little more Neanderthal DNA. Speaking of meeting in bars, this prove an old saying was really old. After having a little too much fermented God knows what, all the cave girls DO look prettier at closing time. 







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