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#241 Crymson

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 11:26 PM

 

Huh?  Speaking out of my arse?  Last season, we were one of the league leaders in man games lost.  I doubt it's much better this year.

 

The team is fragile physically. 

 

... because of injuries to Bertuzzi, Samuelsson, Colaiacovo, and Helm, who collectively accounted for the vast majority of the team's man-games lost to injury. With the exception of Helm (who was injured before the season began), the injuries during that season almost exclusively struck the team's less important players. The team's five best players (Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Ericsson, and Kronwall) missed a combined 12 games to injury, and Brunner, Cleary, Filppula, and Abdelkader, who typically rounded out the 2nd line and the 2nd PP unit, combined for ten more. That amounts to a total of 22 games lost between the nine of them.

 

So yes, you're speaking from your arse.


Anaheim is actually 2nd in the league in man games lost.  Pittsburgh is first.  

 

Yet both teams have handled it well, wouldn't you say?  

 

With the exception of Koivu, Anaheim's major injuries have been to generally unimportant players. Do your research. Pittsburgh has suffered numerous injuries, yes, but having far and away the best player on the planet really helps a team win games.



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 11:31 PM

 

... because of injuries to Bertuzzi, Samuelsson, Colaiacovo, and Helm, who collectively accounted for the vast majority of the team's man-games lost to injury. With the exception of Helm (who was injured before the season began), the injuries during that season almost exclusively struck the team's less important players. The team's five best players (Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Ericsson, and Kronwall) missed a combined 12 games to injury, and Brunner, Cleary, Filppula, and Abdelkader, who typically rounded out the 2nd line and the 2nd PP unit, combined for ten more. That amounts to a total of 22 games lost between the nine of them.

 

So yes, you're speaking from your arse.

 

Why do you keep talking about my arse so much?    

 

If our injuries last year were to less important players, why did people use injuries so much as an excuse?  Or were you an exemption from those types of posts?  If so, my humble apologies.  Fact is, we were one of the leaders in man games lost.  Yeah, they weren't to the best players, but it still shows an inability from a team standpoint to stay healthy.  Now, it's the better players getting hurt.  Hence, a team wide problem.  I never said specifically, that Datsyuk or Zetterberg can't stay healthy every year.  Just two straight seasons of being injury riddled as a team.          

 

Also, I don't remember us dominating the standings this year even when those 5 best players have been together.  Of course, a lot has to do with Howard being awful this year and better last year.  But injuries are an easy excuse when you have bad coaching and a mediocre lineup.  Look at the two teams leading the league this year in man games lost.  They don't seem to be struggling.  


Edited by GMRwings1983, 13 January 2014 - 12:03 AM.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 11:56 PM

@AnsarKhanMLive: Babcock on flu bug: We had lot of guys throwing up during the game, Glenny and Kronner all night long. They just kept playing and competing

Da f***?

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:01 AM

@AnsarKhanMLive: Babcock on flu bug: We had lot of guys throwing up during the game, Glenny and Kronner all night long. They just kept playing and competing

Da f***?

 

Must have partied pretty hard in LA last night.  I can't blame 'em.  


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:27 AM

@AnsarKhanMLive: Babcock on flu bug: We had lot of guys throwing up during the game, Glenny and Kronner all night long. They just kept playing and competing
Da f***?


It's funny because I feel nauseas when I watch them play.

But in all seriousness there has to be some admiration for players playing sick.

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:44 AM


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#247 PavelValerievichDatsyuk

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 01:38 AM

Trying to decide which is more accurate....

 

In Detroit, PP stands for 1) Piss Poor or 2) Pathetic Play.

 

Or maybe it's just all four together.  Piss Poor Pathetic Play.

 

That's not to say that there weren't good things to take away from this game.  But, man....

How about: Pavel Please?


Edited by PavelValerievichDatsyuk, 13 January 2014 - 01:38 AM.


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 03:59 AM

Please Please PLEASE can we find a spot for Tootoo to play while 6 skaters are injured? Why does it seem like when we are banged up and he joins the lineup we still manage to win games and he is noticeably energetic when he's out there? He obviously wants to play, he brings his game and some grit, why not play him? 
 
Tootoo isn't the solution, i'm realistic, but I think he's a better option over a few guys that get ice time every night. With all these roster players injured what is it going to hurt to bring in a NHL vet in place of one of these kids like Glendening?

Tootoo should be playing over Samuelsson, no doubt. I dont get how he manages to sneak back into the lineup every time he's been benched (for seemingly the last time of his career). Unbelievable.
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Posted 13 January 2014 - 07:37 AM

@AnsarKhanMLive: Babcock on flu bug: We had lot of guys throwing up during the game, Glenny and Kronner all night long. They just kept playing and competing

Da f***?

clearly they don't wash their hands enough. ;)


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:43 AM

Something that just occurred to me: we don't have a lethal shot from the point. Kronwall, Ericsson, DeKeyser, Smith, Kindl, Lashoff...we really miss the Lidstrom Laser.


Ericsson has one, buy never uses it. His shot can go right through people but he uses it maybe twice a year.
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Posted 13 January 2014 - 11:00 AM

Ericsson has one, buy never uses it. His shot can go right through people but he uses it maybe twice a year.

 

Alfredsson? Scored so many one-timers this season from that right circle/slot.

 

And I think everyone here just needs to calm down and be more realistic. Yes that game was incredibly frustrating,  but afterwards I came away proud of the fact that the Wings went to southern California, played two incredibly tough teams on BACK TO BACK nights, one the first game, and came within a whisker of winning the second. 

 

Now we have something to build on, with the prospect of getting 3 to 4 guys back Thursday in New York. Isn't that something to look forward to, rather than sitting here mindlessly bashing the Coach and the players who have become scapegoat's for this team all year long? Shouldn't we actually be looking at the positives here? The Wings were all over the Ducks in that game. Yes they didn't have many opportunities and the power play wasn't great, but we were more than just in that game. 


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#252 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:34 PM

Ericsson has one, buy never uses it. His shot can go right through people but he uses it maybe twice a year.

That's why I can't wait for Sproul to be a Wing.


This offseason will determine whether Ken Holland should still be employed with the Wings organization.

 

Please put Smith on the Power Play!


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:47 PM

 

Alfredsson? Scored so many one-timers this season from that right circle/slot.

 

And I think everyone here just needs to calm down and be more realistic. Yes that game was incredibly frustrating,  but afterwards I came away proud of the fact that the Wings went to southern California, played two incredibly tough teams on BACK TO BACK nights, one the first game, and came within a whisker of winning the second. 

 

Now we have something to build on, with the prospect of getting 3 to 4 guys back Thursday in New York. Isn't that something to look forward to, rather than sitting here mindlessly bashing the Coach and the players who have become scapegoat's for this team all year long? Shouldn't we actually be looking at the positives here? The Wings were all over the Ducks in that game. Yes they didn't have many opportunities and the power play wasn't great, but we were more than just in that game. 

Other than a terrible power play, I thought they played pretty good.  Especially since half the team was puking all night.  The only criticism I have is also the one-timer bit.  Shoot the puck.  If a guy blocks it, hustle and get it back.  Let him take it somewhere where he may not block the next one.  Keep hammering away.  The final sequence before the game ended, they were taking all their shots from the perimeter and not getting any from the middle. 

 

Oh, and Sammy is horrible.  He can't even shoot anymore.  He is slow motion assassinating shin pads now.


This offseason will determine whether Ken Holland should still be employed with the Wings organization.

 

Please put Smith on the Power Play!


#254 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 01:57 PM

lost came down to the following....

 

A) 0 for whatever on the PP

B) no finishing work from any of our forwards there were many good chances

C) ducks mighty difficult to beat at home

D) all the above



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 01:58 PM

Ericsson does have a shot, but he also doesn't use it (like you said). So I count that as not having one.

 

Afredsson has a shot, but I'm talking about our defensemen. Plus, he's injury-prone and may be gone next season.

 

WHY CAN'T EVERYONE SHOOT LIKE SAMMY


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 02:13 PM

lost came down to the following....

 

A) 0 for whatever on the PP

B) no finishing work from any of our forwards there were many good chances

C) ducks mighty difficult to beat at home

D) all the above

 

I'm actually tempted to blame the whole thing on Smith's brain fart. Many nights this season it's been a case of us playing a good overall game and battling hard and doing the things we set out to do - but then someone makes a boneheaded mistake and the puck ends up in our net, and that ends up more or less deciding the game. Often there are multiple such lapses. I mean, I'm not saying the PP didn't kill us. And I'm not saying we're not missing our injured players. It's just, on the whole, I think simple, stupid mistakes have cost us an incredible number of points in the standings this season. Clean that oh-whoops-my-stick-should've-been-on-the-ice-my-bad s*** up and maybe we get a point out of this game.

 

Then again, shoot the puck a millimeter to the right and it doesn't hit the post and maybe we get a point out of the game. Or bury any of our countless chances right in front of Hiller and maybe we get a point out of the game. So, I dunno, ignore me.


Now we have something to build on, with the prospect of getting 3 to 4 guys back Thursday in New York.

 

Though we'll be without Tatar.


Edited by Dabura, 13 January 2014 - 02:17 PM.

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 02:34 PM

By the end of the game and on every PP I was wishing they wouldn't even give it to the Defense. Anaheim was pressuring the point like crazy and leaving a man open in the slot. Adjustment should have been made to stop trying point shots because I don't think one hit the net all night

Though we'll be without Tatar.


What happened to Tatar he got injured??

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 02:46 PM

What happened to Tatar he got injured??

 

Going back to Slovakia for his dads funeral.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 03:20 PM

 

 

WHY CAN'T EVERYONE SHOOT LIKE SAMMY

Because Sammy is a god and should be revered by all. 


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 04:02 PM

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