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#101 PumpkinEscobar

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 05:16 PM

Fleury would not be a reach between 10-15

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 07:19 PM

Fleury would not be a reach between 10-15


I agree with you, but the fact that he is considered a top ten pick tells you how shallow this year is on D. There is more value in the forward position where we are likely to pick. I'm probably wrong as usual so he will develop into the next Shea Weber, and you can rub it in my face for the next 15 years lol...

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 11:32 AM

Ok trade deadline is no over. 21 games to go. How do we finish and where will we pick?

 

Just going back..... Some wanted to bash me for suggesting that little Tuzzi was a waste of a pick, when guys like Fasching were still on the board. He was the piece sent in trade yesterday for Moulson IIRC.

 

Also, before many were talking about Jarnkrok as a prospect, now everyone has joined my opinion that he wasn't top teir, while trying to defend picking up Legwand. Interesting.....



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Posted 06 March 2014 - 08:14 PM

Ok trade deadline is no over. 21 games to go. How do we finish and where will we pick?
 
Just going back..... Some wanted to bash me for suggesting that little Tuzzi was a waste of a pick, when guys like Fasching were still on the board. He was the piece sent in trade yesterday for Moulson IIRC.
 
Also, before many were talking about Jarnkrok as a prospect, now everyone has joined my opinion that he wasn't top teir, while trying to defend picking up Legwand. Interesting.....

Haters gonna hate rich... One thing for sure now we have to draft a center in this draft. Who is ready to jump on the Virtanen or Tuch wagon?

Edited by MasterPavel, 06 March 2014 - 08:20 PM.


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Posted 06 March 2014 - 09:36 PM

McCann

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 10:00 PM

After the last 21 games play out, the draft takes center stage. It will b interesting to see how the young guys do carrying the team. They do have talent. Can we get 21 out of the 42 possible points? Is that enough to make the playoffs? Or do we fall short? I still believe w end up somewhere in the middle.

 

On a draft note, the NHL gave NJ their pick back. BOOOOOOO



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 07:12 AM

After the last 21 games play out, the draft takes center stage. It will b interesting to see how the young guys do carrying the team. They do have talent. Can we get 21 out of the 42 possible points? Is that enough to make the playoffs? Or do we fall short? I still believe w end up somewhere in the middle.
 
On a draft note, the NHL gave NJ their pick back. BOOOOOOO


NJ picks at 30. They would pick ahead of us in the 2nd anyways or we won't have a pick due to leggy.

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 10:45 AM

Ok with the trade deadline pass, time for a little reset. As of today the RW's have the following roster for next season-only includes those that are signed or are RFA's:

 

Z-Datsyuk-Franzen

Jurco-Weiss-Tatar

Nyquist-Helm-Pulkinnen

Abby-Sheahan-Callahan

Miller-Andersson-Glendening

 

E-Kronwall

Dekeyser-Smith

Lashoff-Kindl

Almqvist

 

Howard

McCollom

 

That is 24 and doesn't include TooToo. At that point we should have 16 million or so left is cap space.

 

Now the griffins:

 

Mantha-AA-Nastasiuk

Tvrdon-Nestrasil-Frk

 

Oullett-Sproul

Wheaton?-Marchenko

McNulty-jensen

nedomlel-Nicastro

Backman-DeHaas

 

Mrazek

Coreau

 

Some of these guys may be in Toledo with guys like Paterson, or 1 more year in Junior or some college players.

 

As I have talked about before still a little thin at F. We do need 1 more F heavy draft to fill things out a bit.

 

Now, were/when we will pick? I firmly believe we will pick between 12-18. Even if we miss the PO's, it will not be by much, and it is a very small chance to win the lottery for the number 1 pick.

 

Before I get into draft picks again, I will remind everyone that soon the undrafted college/junior free agents get signed. 2 names to watch: Barcley Goodrow. he is a 6-2/215 LW that loves to play in close to the G's. he has 30 goals this year for North Bay. had over 20 last year. Spent time at our prospect camp this past summer. Would love to see us sign him. His skating is the question mark. he isn't very fast, been then again neither was Homer. Could he become that type of player in the pros?

Another name: Trevor van Riemsdyk. 6-2/190 RH D. He was one of the top NCAA Dman before he hurt his ankle this year. He does have 1 more year of eligibility IIRC, but the rumors are he will sign. If he is half as good as his brother, it would be money well spent.

 

1 or both would be awesome signings. Free talent!



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 12:07 PM

after trading away jarnkrok, gotta think we'll target a center.... anyone know of any good ones available mid-first round?


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 01:13 PM

after trading away jarnkrok, gotta think we'll target a center.... anyone know of any good ones available mid-first round?

 

McCann


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 02:49 PM

Now some names. Unless a super falls, or we win the lottery the following guys are pretty much out If we are picking between 12-18.

 

Draisaitl

Reinhart

Bennett

dal Colle

Nylander

Ritchie

Virtanen

Goldobin

Perlimni

 

All are very good and highly rated F's. Most if not all will be gone in the top 10-12 picks.

So, what is left for us to look at? Ok lets look more in depth.

 

McCann 6-0/185 LH LW/C. High energy, good 2 way guy, with high hockey IQ.

 

Barbashev 6-1/185 LHed LW/C. good quickness and anticipation.

 

Pastrnak 5-10/165 RHed LW/C. A Tatar type of player.

 

Ehlers 6-0/170 LHed LW. Speed to burn.

 

Kapanen. 5-11/175 RHed RW. Good skill but plays tentative.

 

Larkin 6-1/190 LHed C/LW. Great 2 way player with some grit and has skill.

 

Tuch 6-4/225 RHed C/RW. Big, strong, good on his skates, great shot. Needs to be a bit quicker.



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 07:20 PM

Kapanen won't be available that late. He has a great pedigree, high compete level, already plays against men, and has great skills. Virtanen will probably be gone so I would like to see one of Tuch/Barbashev.

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 07:53 PM

I am still on the Tuch bandwagon. He has over a point per game for US NTDP this year. 50 points in 45 games. he also has played C for them, not sure he has the speed for that position at the NHL level. But we are talking about a 18 year old. Plus he is 6-4/225 and RHed. Both things we need more of.



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 08:16 PM

I am still on the Tuch bandwagon. He has over a point per game for US NTDP this year. 50 points in 45 games. he also has played C for them, not sure he has the speed for that position at the NHL level. But we are talking about a 18 year old. Plus he is 6-4/225 and RHed. Both things we need more of.


If there is one thing our organization develops is skating. The problem with putting him down the middle is you waste his best potential as a PF...

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 08:22 PM

That is true. I prefer him as a PF and worry about he C in the 2nd round and in the 2015 draft.



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 09:01 PM

McCann is probably the only highly talented player around 15 that projects as a true center. He has a very nice shot and good speed...

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 09:42 PM

Mantha with 54...55..and 56 tonight

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 10:18 PM

Draft all Dmen

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 07:22 AM

Draft all Dmen


That makes absolutely no sense. You are drafting for 2018-2019 right now. Oullette, Sproul, and Marchenko will be with the big club. Kronner, Ericcson, Dekeyser, and Smith will be too. All the while Pavel will be in his last year, Zetty maybe retired, Weiss contract will be up, and Helm will be injured. So I would venture to say centers and pf may be a tad bit more important in a draft very shallow with defensemen. Outside of the top two there isn't much quality.

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 08:38 AM

MP you are correct. You draft for 3-5 years down the road. At that point in time Z with his bad back, Datsyuk with his bad knee, Franzen with his bad head, Helm with his general made of glassness could all be gone. Even if we were to resign Legwand-he would be 36-38 and will be done. The need is at F right now. Ideally we would have 2-3 prospects for every guy we are losing-law of averages on who works out. The only D we lose-baring trades are Kronwall and E. But we have 6-8 D prospects in the pipeline already. Add more in the later rounds. F's are the focus-unless a super drops.







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