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#21 number9

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 09:48 AM

A first round pick for an upcoming UFA who isn't a star wow. Buffalo really has to lower their expectations for Miller and Ott.

 

I would not do it for the simple fact: I think it could be the best draft position this team has had in some time. The guy will be an UFA so why not wait a few months and make him an offer them without paying a first rounder.

Buffalo sold Gaustad for a 1st rounder a few years ago at the deadline. IMO Ott is better than Gaus and they will probably get the same for him.

Miller is equal to, if not better than, Howard. Wouldn't you expect at least a 1st for Howie?

Fact is buyers always overpay at the deadline. Which is why Holland never buys at the deadline.... unless it's Quincey :)



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:27 AM

Buffalo sold Gaustad for a 1st rounder a few years ago at the deadline. IMO Ott is better than Gaus and they will probably get the same for him.

Miller is equal to, if not better than, Howard. Wouldn't you expect at least a 1st for Howie?

Fact is buyers always overpay at the deadline. Which is why Holland never buys at the deadline.... unless it's Quincey :)

 

I understand it if you are the Blues and in some sort of "YOU put us over the top" type of situation but from a current Wings point of view I would not do it for Ott. Howard + first for a hometown boy who is back to being elite ? Sure.

 

I want Ott on the team but it's not like he is going to be that big of a differnse, Poile overpaid for Gaustad. If I am Armstrong I'd offer Halak + 1st for Miller


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:54 AM

 

I understand it if you are the Blues and in some sort of "YOU put us over the top" type of situation but from a current Wings point of view I would not do it for Ott. Howard + first for a hometown boy who is back to being elite ? Sure.

 

I want Ott on the team but it's not like he is going to be that big of a differnse, Poile overpaid for Gaustad. If I am Armstrong I'd offer Halak + 1st for Miller

I think Howard and a first or Halak and a first is too much. I'm thinking like Howard and 2nd or 3rd.

I agree Ott for our first is not a good idea. I don't think he fits into our system with his style of play, and we need shooting forwards



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 11:05 AM

I think Howard and a first or Halak and a first is too much. I'm thinking like Howard and 2nd or 3rd.

I agree Ott for our first is not a good idea. I don't think he fits into our system with his style of play, and we need shooting forwards

 

Yeah Howard + 1 st (from our pov) is way too much I have a feeling it will be a very good draft position and I think Miller wants to play for a contender, so I don't think he would re-sign here.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:00 PM

I think Howard and a first or Halak and a first is too much. I'm thinking like Howard and 2nd or 3rd.

I agree Ott for our first is not a good idea. I don't think he fits into our system with his style of play, and we need shooting forwards


Did you honestly just put halak on the same level as Howard? Shame on you.

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 04:25 PM

Did you honestly just put halak on the same level as Howard? Shame on you.


I'd say their comparable

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 11:07 PM

I'd say their comparable

 

halak is enjoying inflated numbers due to a defensive system, if howie was playing in st. louis his numbers would be so much better then halaks



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 05:12 AM

 
halak is enjoying inflated numbers due to a defensive system, if howie was playing in st. louis his numbers would be so much better then halaks


I agree with you... to an extent. Howie is good, consistent, nothing to write home about. Same with halak, when he was in MTL or STL

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 05:20 PM

Andersson + 2nd rounder
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Posted 02 February 2014 - 10:47 PM

I want to play!

Steve Ott or Drew Miller? Miller.  Steve Ott or Patrick Eaves? Ott.  Ott or Cleary? Ott.  Ott or Tootoo? Tootoo.  Ott or Glendening? Glendening. Ott or Sammy?  Ott.



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 05:53 PM

I'd love to have Ott


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 03:00 PM

many like the idea of Ott here. But I don't see the reason why? In his 8+ full seasons he has scored more than 12 goals in a season twice, so it isn't O. yes he is a good defensive gritty guy, but he isn't really an enforcer either. he is another 3/4 line guy to add to the large collection of those types we already have.

 

Ott isn't a scorer, obviously, but he's tough in the corners and in the face-off circle. Come playoff time, this is something the Wings lack year-in-and-year-out. He's definitely not a top-6 forward for an offensive team, but the Wings lack a real 'grind'-line center and Ott would provide Drew Miller a lot of help on the PK.

 

Ott would fill the same role Tootoo was brought in for. Ott is perhaps more skilled but if there is no place for Tootoo I dont see them trading for Ott.

 

 

I agree that he would fill Tootoo's role; however, Ott currently plays 19:40 ish per game with the Sabres, 2:30ish of that shorthanded. So he kills penalties as well. He also can play on the PP and I can see us trying to make him a net front guy. So he fills Tootoo's role and more. I honestly see him as more of an Abdelkader type player than a Tootoo type player.

 

By Tootoo's role, you mean as a scratch or buried in the AHL? The big difference between Ott and Tootoo is that you want Ott in the circle. He would give the Wings a lot more options than, say, skating Datsyuk out to take every draw late in playoff games or at the end of the regular season. 

 

A first round pick for an upcoming UFA who isn't a star wow. Buffalo really has to lower their expectations for Miller and Ott.

 

I would not do it for the simple fact: I think it could be the best draft position this team has had in some time. The guy will be an UFA so why not wait a few months and make him an offer them without paying a first rounder.

 

Really? This is why I would do it. Holland gave up a minor leaguer and the 19th overall pick for Kyle Quincey on an expiring contract. If we could get Ott for just a late 1st rounder, count me in.

 

Realistically, Ott isn't the type of guy that the Wings want to sign in the off-season, but he is the type of guy they need in the playoffs. This team is getting old enough that they can't overwhelm opponents with speed and stick-handling like they used to. They need a line that can wear down an opponent. A center-man like Ott who can handle himself in the face-off circle, won't embarrass himself on the PK, and can log nearly 20 minutes a game is quite valuable for doing that (especially during a playoff run).



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 08:27 PM

By Tootoo's role, you mean as a scratch or buried in the AHL? The big difference between Ott and Tootoo is that you want Ott in the circle. He would give the Wings a lot more options than, say, skating Datsyuk out to take every draw late in playoff games or at the end of the regular season. 


By Tootoo's role I meant annoying agitator that everyone hates to play against and forces the other team to keep their head up. Trust me, I realize Ott is way more valuable than Tootoo.





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