hooon 1,089 Report post Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Considering Franzen's year as-a-whole, it's probably not terrible news for the team that he isn't skating. As an individual it's awful he is still sidelined and I would never have wished it on him or anybody else. Huh? Franzen was playing pretty excellent before he got hurt. The only "good" thing about it is that, as someone mentioned above, it helps us very temporarily with the cap situation that Holland put us in with the Clearmuelsstuzzi contracts as we can keep Mule on LTIR when Weiss comes back. Edited February 12, 2014 by hooon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted February 12, 2014 Huh? Franzen was playing pretty excellent before he got hurt. The only "good" thing about it is that, as someone mentioned above, it helps us very temporarily with the cap situation that Holland put us in with the Clearmuelsstuzzi contracts as we can keep Mule on LTIR when Weiss comes back. everything just seems to narrowly and perfectly work out with perfect timing for KH doesn't it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 Zetterberg, herniated disc again. http://www.tsn.ca/olympics/story/?id=443773 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SimonSin 192 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 Zetterberg, herniated disc again. http://www.tsn.ca/olympics/story/?id=443773 I just saw this also on the NHL homepage. Horrible news for the team moving forward. Our two best players are not 100% with only 24 games left in the season. Not good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 the kids have to continue to step up. judging by Z's comments re: datsyuks injury, i don't think Z will risk it as much as pav but hopefully both will be fine by the time play resumes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinezsvsu 240 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 id love for dats to sit out the usa game, with the way we hit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 Did Datsyuk play this morning? Anybody watch? How did he look? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 Did Datsyuk play this morning? Anybody watch? How did he look?He did.He looked hobbled. I seen him fall a few times, and he limped off after being sloofooted and I didnt see his final toi, but it wasnt alot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 he played, but it wasnt a 100% Pasha out there thats for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMatt89 63 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 No more call ups for the rest of the season per khan, due to weiss coming back, almost dad to see. They looked good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWang 422 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 Yeah i just read that Jurco n Sheahan are back in GR until next season. Laaaaame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 Yeah i just read that Jurco n Sheahan are back in GR until next season. Laaaaame. playoffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 Yeah i just read that Jurco n Sheahan are back in GR until next season. Laaaaame. Unless a trade is made to clear salary or more people get hurt. Even if it wasn't for the cap though, you can't send down every vet on your roster in favor of prospects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) playoffs Plus: inevitable future injuries. Hell, we've got ten players in Sochi, at least two of which are clearly trying to play through injury. So I'd say the odds are pretty good that at least one of Jurco/Sheahan will be called up again before we even reach the playoffs. And another thing: it's only going to get rougher, chippier, etc. from here until the playoffs, given how tight the races are in both conferences. So, really, we WILL be dealing with more injuries. Bank on it. The only thing I really don't like about it is that Cleary and Bertuzzi (and Samuelsson?) are, ultimately, safe. So all the talk about the best guys playing and a guy's pay being irrelevant was mostly just talk. Not that I don't get that we're in cap hell. I guess I, like everyone, am frustrated that we have to be in cap hell at all. Re-signing Cleary and Bertuzzi, overpaying Tootoo, bringing back Samuelsson...and I'm not convinced Kenny has learned his lesson. Edited February 14, 2014 by Dabura 1 dirtydangles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 Plus: inevitable future injuries. Hell, we've got ten players in Sochi, at least two of which are clearly trying to play through injury. So I'd say the odds are pretty good that at least one of Jurco/Sheahan will be called up again before we even reach the playoffs. And another thing: it's only going to get rougher, chippier, etc. from here until the playoffs, given how tight the races are in both conferences. So, really, we WILL be dealing with more injuries. Bank on it. The only thing I really don't like about it is that Cleary and Bertuzzi (and Samuelsson?) are, ultimately, safe. So all the talk about the best guys playing and a guy's pay being irrelevant was mostly just talk. Not that I don't get that we're in cap hell. I guess I, like everyone, am frustrated that we have to be in cap hell at all. Re-signing Cleary and Bertuzzi, overpaying Tootoo, bringing back Samuelsson...and I'm not convinced Kenny has learned his lesson. Cleary is probably going to need to go down for cap reasons, and so will Samuelsson. Bertuzzi only clears $100k though. Unless they make a trade, they can afford this forward lineup: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Abdelkader Franzen-Weiss-Nyquist Tatar-Helm-Alfredsson Miller-Andersson-Bertuzzi and one of Glendening or Emmerton. That leaves not very much cap space. If they choose Emmerton, they may have enough for Samuelsson too, but only just. I didn't run that scenario through capgeek because Samuelsson is so terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 Poor Eaves. The guy is so much better than Bert/Cleary/Sammy but will go down for cap reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) Cleary is probably going to need to go down for cap reasons, and so will Samuelsson. Bertuzzi only clears $100k though. Unless they make a trade, they can afford this forward lineup: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Abdelkader Franzen-Weiss-Nyquist Tatar-Helm-Alfredsson Miller-Andersson-Bertuzzi and one of Glendening or Emmerton. That leaves not very much cap space. If they choose Emmerton, they may have enough for Samuelsson too, but only just. I didn't run that scenario through capgeek because Samuelsson is so terrible. that lineup looks a lot less dangerous without the Jurco-Sheahan-Tatar line Edit: Grammar Edited February 14, 2014 by Euro_Twins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 that lineup looks a lot less dangerous without the Jurco-Sheahan-Tatar line Edit: Grammar That depends on what Weiss and Franzen can do. Weiss has a pretty good history of production, and Franzen can usually be counted on for over 25 goals and around 60 points. If Weiss can get back into form, he's better than Sheahan. Franzen was on fire when he got hurt, if he can come back healthy, he's better than Jurco. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 that lineup looks a lot less dangerous without the Jurco-Sheahan-Tatar line Edit: Grammar Not if Weiss plays how we expected him to when we signed him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 Not if Weiss plays how we expected him to when we signed him. While I agree with this, and I was a big supporter of the Weiss signing, there is a whole lot riding on him becoming who we signed him to be, but if z ends up on ltir, we can keep the kids up and roll 4 dangerous lines, with Weiss, helm, franzen Datsyuk, alfie, nyquist, tats sheahan, and jurco, we could be a force to be reckoned with, shame it has to be on z's back (no pun intended) though... 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 We could have both Z and Mule on LTIR after the break, I don't see why Jurco and Sheahan wouldn't stay in that awful, awful scenario. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 While I agree with this, and I was a big supporter of the Weiss signing, there is a whole lot riding on him becoming who we signed him to be, but if z ends up on ltir, we can keep the kids up and roll 4 dangerous lines, with Weiss, helm, franzen Datsyuk, alfie, nyquist, tats sheahan, and jurco, we could be a force to be reckoned with, shame it has to be on z's back (no pun intended) though... Ah, good points.. Z on ltir would make sense but hopefully he doesn't need it. It would be so bittersweet though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Playmaker Report post Posted February 14, 2014 Weiss has pretty much missed two full seasons with different, but serious injuries. Does anyone really think he's going to come back and dominate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 Weiss has pretty much missed two full seasons with different, but serious injuries. Does anyone really think he's going to come back and dominate? Dominate? No. Be useful? Possibly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 Weiss has pretty much missed two full seasons with different, but serious injuries. Does anyone really think he's going to come back and dominate? Others have done it, I won't count out the possibility until I see otherwise, not getting my hopes too high either though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
