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#121 DickieDunn

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 09:20 PM

Weiss is healthy and he's ready to go first game back from the Olympics. I'm just worried about Franzen. Ansar Khan tweeted that he still hasn't skated.

 

Then he'll probably go on LTIR, delaying the cap hell the team will be in if they can't get rid of salary.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 11:45 PM

Considering Franzen's year as-a-whole, it's probably not terrible news for the team that he isn't skating.  As an individual it's awful he is still sidelined and I would never have wished it on him or anybody else.



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 12:20 AM

Considering Franzen's year as-a-whole, it's probably not terrible news for the team that he isn't skating.  As an individual it's awful he is still sidelined and I would never have wished it on him or anybody else.


I'm not sure what this means, but he had 23 points in 31 games so far this year, That's on pace for 61 points in a full season, and he was red hot when he was injured, so yes it is a loss.

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 01:33 AM

I'm not sure what this means, but he had 23 points in 31 games so far this year, That's on pace for 61 points in a full season, and he was red hot when he was injured, so yes it is a loss.

 

Yeah, but those points don't count as much because if he played hard he could score more.  28 goals from Franzen is the same as 12 from Miller because Miller works harder.  Or some other stupid line of thought like that.  And Hossa.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 08:55 AM

 
Yeah, but those points don't count as much because if he played hard he could score more.  28 goals from Franzen is the same as 12 from Miller because Miller works harder.  Or some other stupid line of thought like that.  And Hossa.


Haha, yeah. Franzen was not only red hot before he was injured, he was consistent for a longer period of time than be has been in years. Maybe since 09? I was ready to believe he finally shook off the ridiculous degree of streakiness.
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Posted 12 February 2014 - 02:22 PM

Considering Franzen's year as-a-whole, it's probably not terrible news for the team that he isn't skating.  As an individual it's awful he is still sidelined and I would never have wished it on him or anybody else.

 

Huh? Franzen was playing pretty excellent before he got hurt.

 

The only "good" thing about it is that, as someone mentioned above, it helps us very temporarily with the cap situation that Holland put us in with the Clearmuelsstuzzi contracts as we can keep Mule on LTIR when Weiss comes back.


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 04:45 PM

 

Huh? Franzen was playing pretty excellent before he got hurt.

 

The only "good" thing about it is that, as someone mentioned above, it helps us very temporarily with the cap situation that Holland put us in with the Clearmuelsstuzzi contracts as we can keep Mule on LTIR when Weiss comes back.

 

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 10:41 AM

Zetterberg, herniated disc again.

 

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:13 AM

Zetterberg, herniated disc again.

 

http://www.tsn.ca/ol...tory/?id=443773

I just saw this also on the NHL homepage. Horrible news for the team moving forward. Our two best players are not 100% with only 24 games left in the season. Not good.



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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:38 AM

the kids have to continue to step up. judging by Z's comments re: datsyuks injury, i don't think Z will risk it as much as pav but hopefully both will be fine by the time play resumes.


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 02:36 PM

id love for dats to sit out the usa game, with the way we hit



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Posted 13 February 2014 - 05:03 PM

Did Datsyuk play this morning? Anybody watch? How did he look?

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 05:37 PM

Did Datsyuk play this morning? Anybody watch? How did he look?

He did.
He looked hobbled.
I seen him fall a few times, and he limped off after being sloofooted and I didnt see his final toi, but it wasnt alot.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 06:18 PM

he played, but it wasnt a 100% Pasha out there thats for sure.


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 07:13 PM

No more call ups for the rest of the season per khan, due to weiss coming back, almost dad to see. They looked good.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:07 PM

Yeah i just read that Jurco n Sheahan are back in GR until next season. Laaaaame.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:09 PM

Yeah i just read that Jurco n Sheahan are back in GR until next season. Laaaaame.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:22 PM

Yeah i just read that Jurco n Sheahan are back in GR until next season. Laaaaame.

 

Unless a trade is made to clear salary or more people get hurt.  Even if it wasn't for the cap though, you can't send down every vet on your roster in favor of prospects.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:29 PM

playoffs

 

Plus: inevitable future injuries. Hell, we've got ten players in Sochi, at least two of which are clearly trying to play through injury. So I'd say the odds are pretty good that at least one of Jurco/Sheahan will be called up again before we even reach the playoffs. And another thing: it's only going to get rougher, chippier, etc. from here until the playoffs, given how tight the races are in both conferences. So, really, we WILL be dealing with more injuries. Bank on it.

 

The only thing I really don't like about it is that Cleary and Bertuzzi (and Samuelsson?) are, ultimately, safe. So all the talk about the best guys playing and a guy's pay being irrelevant was mostly just talk. Not that I don't get that we're in cap hell. I guess I, like everyone, am frustrated that we have to be in cap hell at all. Re-signing Cleary and Bertuzzi, overpaying Tootoo, bringing back Samuelsson...and I'm not convinced Kenny has learned his lesson.


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:42 PM

 

Plus: inevitable future injuries. Hell, we've got ten players in Sochi, at least two of which are clearly trying to play through injury. So I'd say the odds are pretty good that at least one of Jurco/Sheahan will be called up again before we even reach the playoffs. And another thing: it's only going to get rougher, chippier, etc. from here until the playoffs, given how tight the races are in both conferences. So, really, we WILL be dealing with more injuries. Bank on it.

 

The only thing I really don't like about it is that Cleary and Bertuzzi (and Samuelsson?) are, ultimately, safe. So all the talk about the best guys playing and a guy's pay being irrelevant was mostly just talk. Not that I don't get that we're in cap hell. I guess I, like everyone, am frustrated that we have to be in cap hell at all. Re-signing Cleary and Bertuzzi, overpaying Tootoo, bringing back Samuelsson...and I'm not convinced Kenny has learned his lesson.

 

Cleary is probably going to need to go down for cap reasons, and so will Samuelsson.  Bertuzzi only clears $100k though.  Unless they make a trade, they can afford this forward lineup:

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Abdelkader

Franzen-Weiss-Nyquist

Tatar-Helm-Alfredsson

Miller-Andersson-Bertuzzi

and one of Glendening or Emmerton.  That leaves not very much cap space.  If they choose Emmerton, they may have enough for Samuelsson too, but only just.  I didn't run that scenario through capgeek because Samuelsson is so terrible.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!






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