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#1 Andy Pred 48

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 07:16 PM

just a quick look at our Swedish blueline prospects comparison's to our current Swedish Dmen.

 

Looking at their SHL careers and what they accomplished afterwards, does it give us a accurate guide on

what to expect from Almqvist or Backman.

SHL figures:

If we take Kronwall, 6' and 190lb lefty, had stats of played 166 games with 12+33 = 45 pts and a +3 rating.

Ericsson on the other hand, at 6'5" 225lb lefty played 81 games with 1+0= 1 and a -16 rating.

 

Almqvist 5' 11" and 174lb lefty, played 122 games with 5+30= 35 pts and +47 rating.

Backman 6'2" and 170lb lefty has played 146 games to date with 7+43= 50pts and +33 rating.

 

Judging by the Swedish Hockey League figures Backman looks to have the edge on all of them?

 

Almqvist, Nik and Eric have also all played over 100+ games in the AHL. How do they add up;

 

Kronwall 102 g 15+51= 66pts and a +11 rating.

Ericsson 176 g 17+61= 78pts and a +21 rating.

Almqvist 109 g 10+44= 54pts and a +12 rating.

 

Kronwall now lives up to be the highest pick amongst them as having the best overall AHL stats.

 

Our prospect pool on the D is very deep, Backman is due to come over next year and start his pro

career in Grand Rapids. It will be interesting to see how he copes with the smaller ice and bigger

opposition. Has he already overtaken Almqvist in the Wings pecking order without playing in the A?


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 07:23 PM

Almqvist, I believe, is out of options after this year and would need to clear waivers to return to Grand Rapids, so if he's re-signed, I would think he gets first crack at a Detroit roster spot over all the other D prospects.  Backman will start in Grand Rapids unless he completely blows everyone's doors off and beats out every D prospect.  Also, Backman is 3" taller than Almqvist, but is 4 lbs. lighter.  He'll have to put on some muscle before he gets a legit shot.



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Posted 21 January 2014 - 07:45 PM

By all accounts Bachman has the better all around game.  Almquist has a nice shot, but he's pretty limited in every other regard.  On a team with a stud defense, Almquist could probably play the roll of offensive d-man and PP point a la Torey Krug.  But our team is already weak defensively, so I can't see him playing well for us. 


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 07:48 PM

Backman by a country-mile.


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 07:56 PM

The Wings need to have all these prospects stay here and have a group of strength and conditioning guys build these guys some muscle...it's obvious some of these guys aren't doing it on their own.

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 08:10 PM

Kid who is still a legit NHL prospect in Backman vs. Swedish Lebda.

 

I wonder who will be better?


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 08:22 PM

Almquist just doesn't have the physical skills necessary to be a consistent NHL player in my mind. Realistically he likely won't be a Krug or Boyle type guy but I'll admit it is possible of course. Backman has more of a natural body type for the NHL where he can compete physically with bigger players. He also produces pretty well so far in the SHL. These factors make Backman the safer bet.


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 10:54 PM

Regardless of his size, because I hate when people bring it up, Almquist is going to be a solid defenseman for the Wings if he gets the chance. I watch him constantly when I watch the Griffins, and he's outstanding offensively. I don't regret saying this next statement, but he reminds me so much of Lidstrom offensively. He's always got his head up, makes great passes, and he always keeps his shot low to the ice. Sure, he isn't going to knock anybody over, but he positions himself well, and is incredibly intelligent. None of us have seen Backman play, but I assume he will be good. But I can truly say I have watched Adam and I am truly impressed by him.


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:19 AM

im all for having almqvist instead of quincey next season.



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:21 AM

im all for having almqvist instead of quincey next season.

I'm all for having neither.

 

I don't care how good he is offensively, he can't get it done defensively against bigger players.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:24 AM

Easily backman .... I wish almquist was here now though ... I think he would greatly help the 2nd ppl unit

Edited by nyqvististhefuture, 22 January 2014 - 12:25 AM.


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:38 AM

Easily backman .... I wish almquist was here now though ... I think he would greatly help the 2nd ppl unit

 

Is he a right handed shot with a thick body?  No, so Babcock wouldn't have him on the PP.  I understand that having a right shot on the point is nice, but talent is more important. Kronwall, Kindl, and Smith for sure shoould be on the points of the 2 units, and Alfredsson should be playing lower along the half boards or the slot instead of the point.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 02:26 AM

I went to the Griffin's game this last Saturday, and all I can say is that Almquist didn't stand out in any way.  He's small, not very good defensively and didn't even register a shot I don't think.  Obviously, without seeing Backman play, I can't say if I think he'd be better, but Almquist just didn't impress.



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 04:13 AM

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Backman also leads the swedish league in TOI per game. I think he was one of those guys that the coaches trusted pretty quickly.



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 04:43 AM

I remember Backman from WJCH a few years ago. He was a very steady defenseman. Not sure he will be as good as Kronwall but maybe a more defensive minded version. I havent followed his career in SHL.
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Posted 22 January 2014 - 05:38 AM

Backman.
Just based in size.
But alms got some speed on that shot.

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 06:33 AM

Haven't watched the guy play myself but from eliteprospects: 

 

Bäckman is an offensive defenseman with good on-ice vision and mobility. Contributes offensively by delivering clever passes and a good shot.

He is however very bad in the defensive zone. His physical game is extremely weak and he sometimes makes foolish decisions in 2-on-1 situations. 

 

 

I'd also like to mention that Kronwall's stats are way more impressive than both AA's and Backman's. The SHL was a much better league back then. That said hopefully one of these guys turn out good. Got more hope in AA at the moment as I've seen him more and think his brief NHL stint showed that he's got talent that stands out even there, Backman meanwhile has to come over and adjust to small ice and we'll see how that goes. 



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 01:05 AM

Almquist just surpassed his point totals from last season with about 30 or so games to go(31 points last year, 32 so far this year). 2 goals and 9 assists in his last 7 games. Also scored the shootout winner tonight(only player to score). Regardless of size, it's hard to not be a little bit excited about the offensive potential.


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Posted 02 February 2014 - 03:40 AM

Almquist just surpassed his point totals from last season with about 30 or so games to go(31 points last year, 32 so far this year). 2 goals and 9 assists in his last 7 games. Also scored the shootout winner tonight(only player to score). Regardless of size, it's hard to not be a little bit excited about the offensive potential.

If we want to be a good puck possession team again he should be part of our plans. We may not have a Lidstrom to pair him with, but with Dekeyser or Ericsson I think he'd be fine next year.

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 05:21 AM

I think Almquist will get his fair shot next season, if the guy produces they are going to keep him if not, they might trade him. That being said he still has to do some bulking up, the guy is too small.


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