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#21 dat's sick

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 01:13 PM

 
I hope not.  I'm starting to suspect he and Datsyuk are too committed to the Olympic cause (being captains of their country) and are trying to rest a little before the grueling competition.  

Serious question: have you been watching Zetterberg the past few weeks?

He's clearly been playing through injury. He has had a dozen 'maintance days' as well.

It's honestly shameful that people question Hank and Pav.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 01:28 PM

We all know who SHOULD be sent packing, but in realty the three that will most likely be sent to GR are Sheahan, Jurco and Glendening.  Tatar is not exempt from waivers and would absolutely get snatched up...

 

Although, Holland surprised to bajeevies out of me by waiving Sammy, so waiving Bert and Cleary is not out of the question.  I do think, since Philly wanted Cleary for $3M over the summer, they would most certainly give us a conditional pick for him at his current salary.  Although Cleary does have a NTC, he showed some interest in playing in Philly, so he may waive it to go there.  If he just got sent through waivers, he probably would rather play for a playoff chance than get claimed by Buffalo or Edmonton...

 

Speaking of waivers and stuff, notice that all the UFA's that Holland signed two summers ago are gone, so to speak.  Tootoo waived, Sammy waived, Cola bought out.  He atoned for those mistakes (although I do think Tootoo should be here, its just Babcock dumb ass that won't play him) so maybe he will atone for the mistake of re-signing Cleary and Bertuzzi. A (Red Wings) Nation holds its breath!


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 01:29 PM

They should sit Gustavsson Tuesday and play mrazek , when's the last time he's had a start??? What's the point of having mrazek here if he's never playing , at that point call up McCollum or Coreau.

Mrazek is only 21 ... He needs to play

 

Mrazek is up because Howard and Gustavsson are never healthy at the same time. That means there's a pretty decent chance that the third-stringer will need to see some action. With points at an absolute premium, I want that third-stringer to be the kid who's arguably ready to be a pretty good starter in this league. Coreau is fresh out of college. McCollum is McCollum.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 01:38 PM

Coreau blows so he'll never see action here...he rarely sees in Grand Rapids

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 01:39 PM

when it comes to priority, representing your country is way above the NHL when it comes to players, ESPECIALLY Europeans. I have NO doubt that Pav and Hank are "resting" for the Olympics or if you want, making sure they do get re-injured before they represent their countries.  This is not a knock of them, it's just fact.  Is it wrong? From a fan's POV yes, a fan of the NHL that is.  Espcially in Russia and Sweden, hockey there is as important as living, and with the Olympics in Russia this year, Pavel Datsyuk would become an even bigger National Hero if they won the Gold.  He is already regarded as the top Olympian in that country...there is no way they would risk re-injuring any part of their body, upper or lower, and miss out on the Olympics.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 01:40 PM

Guys, don't kid (pun) yourselves - the call-ups are on borrowed time. Andersson comes back and already that's one of Sheahan/Glendening gone.

 

No word yet I think. Sounded precautionary, day-to-day etc, but I guess we'll know more later today.

 

Thanks. I'm assuming he'll be back (pun) right away, but I could see him playing it safe, even if it's not that severe. Like you said, he's cleary been playing through something, hasn't been close to 100%. I can't imagine that's how he wants to go into the Olympics, especially as the captain of his squad.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 01:42 PM

They should sit Gustavsson Tuesday and play mrazek , when's the last time he's had a start??? What's the point of having mrazek here if he's never playing , at that point call up McCollum or Coreau.

Mrazek is only 21 ... He needs to play

Mrazek has been reassigned to gr.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:21 PM

when it comes to priority, representing your country is way above the NHL when it comes to players, ESPECIALLY Europeans. I have NO doubt that Pav and Hank are "resting" for the Olympics or if you want, making sure they do get re-injured before they represent their countries.  This is not a knock of them, it's just fact.  Is it wrong? From a fan's POV yes, a fan of the NHL that is.  Espcially in Russia and Sweden, hockey there is as important as living, and with the Olympics in Russia this year, Pavel Datsyuk would become an even bigger National Hero if they won the Gold.  He is already regarded as the top Olympian in that country...there is no way they would risk re-injuring any part of their body, upper or lower, and miss out on the Olympics.

I don't know what you're basing that on. There's been a lot of debate in Sweden over how little the players seem to care about the national team. Tobias Enstrom for example declined to be a part of the Olympics to focus on his club team. And like I said, Z has obviously been hurting lately and playing through it. I'm pretty sure both him and Pav see the success of the Wings as more important than a 2 week tournament. I don't know why anyone would want our 2 most important players taking risks with their health, regardless of Olympic year or not.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:28 PM

Bet they don't sit out ANY Olympic games due to not wanting to risk their health so they can return to the Wings as soon as the Olympics are over.  Fact is, in the NHL they still get paid when injured, if they're injured for the Olympics they cannot play...

 

If Z and Pav were injured enough to sit out NHL games so to not get even more injured, they too would opt out of the Olympics to not get injured further.  Especially if what you said is true of them seeing the success of the Wings as more important than the Olympics...yet, they are sitting out now and playing in the Olympics...what if they get injured in the Olympics? No biggie, they'll just sit out more NHL games and collect their paycheck...

 

...lets not derail this thread though. I understand your point, but you have to see the skeptical person's point as well. IF the Wings are more important, sit out the Olympics and get healthy. But, they aren't.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:37 PM

They're not playing because they're hurt, not to avoid injury.  Zetterberg has a history of back problems, and I can't see Datsyuk not playing if he could.

 

They have a lot of people to choose from as to who sits.  Hopefully Cleary


Edited by DickieDunn, 27 January 2014 - 02:38 PM.

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:46 PM

exactly my point, they're hurt, so they are out. Makes sense, but they WON'T be out of the Olympics.  If their #1 priority is the Wings, they should also sit out the Olympics to make sure they get healthier in order to help their #1 priority.  But, as I mentioned, for most Europeans, the National Team IS their #1 priority everyday of the week and twice on Sunday...


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 03:34 PM

Olympic athletes don't care much about the Olympics. Not the pro, team sport ones anyway. It's an honor but not much more than that. Kronwall gave an Interesting Interview where he basically said winning the gold would be nice and all, but his enthusiasm was obviously toward NHL play. It Is their bread and butter after all.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 03:46 PM

exactly my point, they're hurt, so they are out. Makes sense, but they WON'T be out of the Olympics.  If their #1 priority is the Wings, they should also sit out the Olympics to make sure they get healthier in order to help their #1 priority.  But, as I mentioned, for most Europeans, the National Team IS their #1 priority everyday of the week and twice on Sunday...

 

If they're still hurt, they won't play in the Olympics.  If they're not hurt, they might as well play.  They know who signs their checks.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:03 PM

Datsyuk is hurt, but was suppose to be back two weeks ago. He is resting/ making sure is 100 percent for the tourney that the WILL play in. On the Brightside our guys should have more energy when they return from Russia.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:06 PM

Before Weiss comes off LTIR the Wings are going to have to clear a bunch of cap space somehow.  The only way they can get cap compliant otherwise is to send Eaves, Cleary, Jurco, and Sheahan down and run with a 22 man active roster, with Bertuzzi and Glendening or Emmerton as the 12th and 13th forwards.

 

Weiss isn't going anywhere.  If the Wings told him they wanted to move him, he'd probably waive the NTC as long as he wasn't being sent to a train wreck like Columbus or Calgary, but they'd get next to nothing back for him.  As good as Sheahan has played, he's not a #2 center, and I'm not convinced that Helm is either, or that he can stay healthy.

 

I wouldn't call Columbus a train wreck... they have been one of the hottest teams in the NHL



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:11 PM

Datsyuk is hurt, but was suppose to be back two weeks ago. He is resting/ making sure is 100 percent for the tourney that the WILL play in. On the Brightside our guys should have more energy when they return from Russia.

 

The only point I agree with you is that he is waiting to be 100%, whether its for the Olympics or for us doesn't matter. I would rather him wait to get 100% then play a week and get hurt again. 


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 05:20 PM

Datsyuk is hurt, but was suppose to be back two weeks ago. He is resting/ making sure is 100 percent for the tourney that the WILL play in. On the Brightside our guys should have more energy when they return from Russia.

 

Yes, because injuries never linger longer than they were thought to.  We don't even know what's wrong with him.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 05:33 PM

its pretty obv to me that he will be back in time to play a few before the tourney. Say what u want


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 05:40 PM

That doesn't mean he's healthy and just resting now.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 06:48 PM

Tatar can't go down to GR without clearing waivers, which he wouldn't.


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