kipwinger 8,521 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 Just out of curiosity, isn't it possible that nothing nefarious happened and that Franzen simply had a reoccurrence of symptoms which had subsided consistently over the previous week, culminating in three straight days without symptoms at all? Is that really such an extraordinary sequence of events? 2 DickieDunn and PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hey man nice shot! 144 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 Franzen needs to kill his wife and kid and then himself? /wow really? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 /wow really? If you are not being sarcastic.....his comment was in reference to the photo of Chris Benoit and Franzen needing to toughen up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 Put him on LTIR so we have some room to make moves. Leave him there until after the trade deadline when there is no cap. same with Weiss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 Just out of curiosity, isn't it possible that nothing nefarious happened and that Franzen simply had a reoccurrence of symptoms which had subsided consistently over the previous week, culminating in three straight days without symptoms at all? Is that really such an extraordinary sequence of events?It sounds like that's exactly what happened. You could come back after 3 good days and be fine or wait 3 weeks and have issues.Put him on LTIR so we have some room to make moves. Leave him there until after the trade deadline when there is no cap. same with Weiss.He is on IR but I think the cap is still in effect until the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewdanna 143 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 Can the DRW prevent him from playing in the Olympics? If they can, they should. He shouldn't see the ice until after the Olympics. The DRW pay his salary, not Sweden. That being said, I hope Sweden and Russia bow out early and do not make the medal rounds. Let the Canadians get beat up. 1 ben_usmc reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 DD yes he is on IR, then his salary counts. On LTIR it doesn't. The day after the trading deadline, there is no cap until next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 DD yes he is on IR, then his salary counts. On LTIR it doesn't. The day after the trading deadline, there is no cap until next season. He is on ltir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 Not according to the press release or Capgeek. There is a difference between Injured Reserve and Long Term Injured Reserve. Different rules. To the best I can see, only Weiss is on LTIR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 DD yes he is on IR, then his salary counts. On LTIR it doesn't. The day after the trading deadline, there is no cap until next season. I don't think this is accurate, but I'm not an expert. I think the way it works is as follows: If a player is placed on LTIR, his salary still counts towards the cap, the team is simply albe to exceed the cap by that player's cap hit (assuming they were right at the cap to begin with). However, if they replace his salary with a new player, they'd need to remove players from the active roster before he is able to come back from LTIR. In terms of trade deadline, I don't think that has any impact at all. I think the cap needs to be applied until the end of the season (regular season I think). In terms of no cap until the following year, that's not true either, I think there are off season cap rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadgerBob 297 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 In terms of no cap until the following year, that's not true either, I think there are off season cap rules. According to capgeek.com you're right: Teams can exceed the salary cap's upper limit by 10 percent during the off-season. The following count toward the team's cap payroll: All players on one-way contracts, regardless of where (or if) they were playing the previous year. All players on two-way contracts, in proportion to the number of days spent on an NHL roster the previous season. All restricted free agents who have been extended a qualifying offer (while the offer is valid), with one-way qualifying offers counting in full and two-way qualifying offers counting as described in No. 2. All restricted free agents signed to an offer sheet (such players count against the team extending the offer sheet while it is still valid). All buyouts. Example: A player with a cap hit of $500,000 and signed to a two-way contract was on an NHL roster for 94 days in the previous season, which was 188 days long. During the off-season, he will count [$500,000/188] x 94 = $250,000. Example: A player with a cap hit of $1.25 million and signed to a one-way contract was assigned to the AHL in the previous season and spent no days on an NHL roster. The player will still count $1.25 million during the off-season. Please note CapGeek.com does not yet calculate the off-season cap. Our off-season cap estimates are a projection of opening-day cap space. 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mjtm77 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 Salary cap is in affect tell playoffs for all that seem to think otherwise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derblaueClaus 1,668 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Jep. It's the roster-limit that is lifted after the TrD. Ontopic : That's bad news. I hope for him he doesn't turn into a second Pronger concussion wise. Edited January 29, 2014 by derblaueClaus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mjtm77 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 What's to think that? He played a good game and got some "symptoms" back. Lets hope we split games from now to the break and come out blazing when it counts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) I normally hate grammar police...but I do have few pet peeves. It's "err" on the side of caution....as in: if you are going to make an "error" While I have no problem being corrected when I make a mistake, I do take offense when someone that decides to correct another person also makes a grammer mistake during their correction. It should be: "I do have a few pet peeves". You can call that my pet peeve. Edited January 29, 2014 by wings87 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted January 30, 2014 Franzen has backed out of the Olympics. Guessing he'll be out until after the break then. Right decision, but obviously sucks for him. Could very likely have been his last chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted January 30, 2014 Franzen has backed out of the Olympics. Guessing he'll be out until after the break then. Right decision, but obviously sucks for him. Could very likely have been his last chance. Even though I rag on the guy, I've always been a fan. Feel bad for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RyaN_84 Report post Posted January 30, 2014 yup i just read that Franzen will not be playing in Sochi.Concussion-like syptoms still bothering him.http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=442577 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted January 30, 2014 Hopefully no one still thinks he's faking it... Hope mule gets healthy over the break and comes back a force to be reckoned with Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted January 30, 2014 Hopefully no one still thinks he's faking it... Hope mule gets healthy over the break and comes back a force to be reckoned with Everybody who is out is faking it. Franzen just wants a vacation, Weiss doesn't want to admit he sucks, and everyone else is just resting for the Olympics. FACT! 1 Euro_Twins reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted January 30, 2014 Concussions are a scary thing, I've had one and roughed it out who knows what it means its crazy how much "we" know but do not know much about concussions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted January 30, 2014 Having return concussion symptoms you probably have to sit for a minimum of 2 weeks or so. The decision to not play in Sochi probably wasn't made by him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) hell be out for the olympics. pulled himself out, must not being feeling well at all. Edited January 30, 2014 by cnot19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted January 31, 2014 That's really too bad. It's tough to have to miss games for the team, but you know you'll get to play when you get better. The Olympics only happen once every four years. I feel bad for him. 1 wings87 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted January 31, 2014 hell be out for the olympics. pulled himself out, must not being feeling well at all. this sounds like a severe concussion get well soon Mule Share this post Link to post Share on other sites