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#61 matthewdanna

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:34 PM

Can the DRW prevent him from playing in the Olympics?  If they can, they should.

He shouldn't see the ice until after the Olympics.  The DRW pay his salary, not Sweden.

 

That being said, I hope Sweden and Russia bow out early and do not make the medal rounds.  Let the Canadians get beat up.



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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:40 PM

DD yes he is on IR, then his salary counts. On LTIR it doesn't. The day after the trading deadline, there is no cap until next season.



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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:40 PM

DD yes he is on IR, then his salary counts. On LTIR it doesn't. The day after the trading deadline, there is no cap until next season.


He is on ltir

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:51 PM

Not according to the press release or Capgeek. There is a difference between Injured Reserve and Long Term Injured Reserve. Different rules. To the best I can see, only Weiss is on LTIR.



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Posted 29 January 2014 - 05:07 PM

DD yes he is on IR, then his salary counts. On LTIR it doesn't. The day after the trading deadline, there is no cap until next season.

I don't think this is accurate, but I'm not an expert.

 

I think the way it works is as follows:

 

  • If a player is placed on LTIR, his salary still counts towards the cap, the team is simply albe to exceed the cap by that player's cap hit (assuming they were right at the cap to begin with).
  • However, if they replace his salary with a new player, they'd need to remove players from the active roster before he is able to come back from LTIR.
  • In terms of trade deadline, I don't think that has any impact at all.  I think the cap needs to be applied until the end of the season (regular season I think).

In terms of no cap until the following year, that's not true either, I think there are off season cap rules.



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Posted 29 January 2014 - 05:17 PM

In terms of no cap until the following year, that's not true either, I think there are off season cap rules.

 

According to capgeek.com you're right:

 

Teams can exceed the salary cap's upper limit by 10 percent during the off-season. The following count toward the team's cap payroll:

  • All players on one-way contracts, regardless of where (or if) they were playing the previous year.
  • All players on two-way contracts, in proportion to the number of days spent on an NHL roster the previous season.
  • All restricted free agents who have been extended a qualifying offer (while the offer is valid), with one-way qualifying offers counting in full and two-way qualifying offers counting as described in No. 2.
  • All restricted free agents signed to an offer sheet (such players count against the team extending the offer sheet while it is still valid).
  • All buyouts.

Example: A player with a cap hit of $500,000 and signed to a two-way contract was on an NHL roster for 94 days in the previous season, which was 188 days long. During the off-season, he will count [$500,000/188] x 94 = $250,000.

Example: A player with a cap hit of $1.25 million and signed to a one-way contract was assigned to the AHL in the previous season and spent no days on an NHL roster. The player will still count $1.25 million during the off-season.

Please note CapGeek.com does not yet calculate the off-season cap. Our off-season cap estimates are a projection of opening-day cap space.



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Posted 29 January 2014 - 05:25 PM

Salary cap is in affect tell playoffs for all that seem to think otherwise
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#68 derblaueClaus

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 05:28 PM

Jep. It's the roster-limit that is lifted after the TrD. 

 

Ontopic : That's bad news. I hope for him he doesn't turn into a second Pronger concussion wise.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 05:33 PM

What's to think that? He played a good game and got some "symptoms" back. Lets hope we split games from now to the break and come out blazing when it counts
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Posted 29 January 2014 - 05:50 PM

I normally hate grammar police...but I do have  few pet peeves.  It's "err" on the side of caution....as in: if you are going to make an "error"

While I have no problem being corrected when I make a mistake, I do take offense when someone that decides to correct another person also makes a grammer mistake during their correction. It should be: "I do have a few pet peeves". You can call that my pet peeve. 


Edited by wings87, 29 January 2014 - 05:58 PM.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 01:59 PM

Franzen has backed out of the Olympics.

Guessing he'll be out until after the break then. Right decision, but obviously sucks for him. Could very likely have been his last chance.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 02:27 PM

Franzen has backed out of the Olympics.

Guessing he'll be out until after the break then. Right decision, but obviously sucks for him. Could very likely have been his last chance.

Even though I rag on the guy, I've always been a fan. Feel bad for him.


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 02:50 PM

yup i just read that Franzen will not be playing in Sochi.
Concussion-like syptoms still bothering him.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=442577



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Posted 30 January 2014 - 03:41 PM

Hopefully no one still thinks he's faking it... Hope mule gets healthy over the break and comes back a force to be reckoned with

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 03:58 PM

Hopefully no one still thinks he's faking it... Hope mule gets healthy over the break and comes back a force to be reckoned with

 

Everybody who is out is faking it.  Franzen just wants a vacation, Weiss doesn't want to admit he sucks, and everyone else is just resting for the Olympics.  FACT!   ;) :sarcasm:


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 04:11 PM

Concussions are a scary thing, I've had one and roughed it out who knows what it means its crazy how much "we" know but do not know much about concussions
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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:07 PM

Having return concussion symptoms you probably have to sit for a minimum of 2 weeks or so. The decision to not play in Sochi probably wasn't made by him

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 06:18 PM

hell be out for the olympics. pulled himself out, must not being feeling well at all.


Edited by cnot19, 30 January 2014 - 06:21 PM.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 08:15 PM

That's really too bad.  It's tough to have to miss games for the team, but you know you'll get to play when you get better.  The Olympics only happen once every four years.

 

I feel bad for him.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 06:19 AM

hell be out for the olympics. pulled himself out, must not being feeling well at all.

 

this sounds like a severe concussion get well soon Mule


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