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Well, it seems that other teams are now the front-runners for the players the Wings were rumored to be interested in, at least the high-profile ones. And the low-profile ones that the Wings were linked to have gone suspiciously quiet. If past day-before-deadline behavior is any indicator, it looks like Holland will really stand pat.

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Well, it seems that other teams are now the front-runners for the players the Wings were rumored to be interested in, at least the high-profile ones. And the low-profile ones that the Wings were linked to have gone suspiciously quiet. If past day-before-deadline behavior is any indicator, it looks like Holland will really stand pat.

In my opinion standing pat is the worst thing Holland can do at this point.

The team either has to make a commitment to making a cup run, or call it a rebuilding year and move assets for the future. If they stand pat they probably eek into the playoffs, get eliminated early and Holland praises the fact the streak is still alive and they go into next offseason in the same position they were last year.

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Well, it seems that other teams are now the front-runners for the players the Wings were rumored to be interested in, at least the high-profile ones. And the low-profile ones that the Wings were linked to have gone suspiciously quiet. If past day-before-deadline behavior is any indicator, it looks like Holland will really stand pat.

In my opinion standing pat is the worst thing Holland can do at this point.

The team either has to make a commitment to making a cup run, or call it a rebuilding year and move assets for the future. If they stand pat they probably eek into the playoffs, get eliminated early and Holland praises the fact the streak is still alive and they go into next offseason in the same position they were last year.

Ever think that the "don't sell" order is coming from upstairs? Holland has people he reports to, and playoff games add a lot of cash.

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Well, it seems that other teams are now the front-runners for the players the Wings were rumored to be interested in, at least the high-profile ones. And the low-profile ones that the Wings were linked to have gone suspiciously quiet. If past day-before-deadline behavior is any indicator, it looks like Holland will really stand pat.

We won't make the playoffs - but we'll have a mid-first-round pick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Also get nothing for Quincey who teams are interested in and let him walk a la Flippula. I think you call this GM style "winging it"

If teams trade him superstar players for scrubs then he will do it it's not like he's actually going out and finding players in an attempt to make our team better. That's ridiculous

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Ever think that the "don't sell" order is coming from upstairs? Holland has people he reports to, and playoff games add a lot of cash.

Not if the Wings become the mid-late 2000s Flames and attendance drops.

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That's not happening. And you know why? The mid-late 2000s Flames were never the 1996-2009 Red Wings.

What does that have to do with anything? My point is the Wings have been following a recipe of mediocrity the last few seasons which leave them in the worst possible spot a team can be in: Too good for a high pick, too bad to be an actual contender.

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Well, it seems that other teams are now the front-runners for the players the Wings were rumored to be interested in, at least the high-profile ones. And the low-profile ones that the Wings were linked to have gone suspiciously quiet. If past day-before-deadline behavior is any indicator, it looks like Holland will really stand pat.

Not surprised since the Wings are rarely front-runners. If Holland ends up making a trade it will be as a dark horse.

We're gonna stand pat and then Kronwall is gonna slip on a puck and break his arms. Then we're gonna wish we hadn't stood pat. Then we're gonna re-sign Quincey.

Bite your tongue you heathen.

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@joesuffp im sure they have bigger plans for offseason and they probably have some guys on a list,,,, I hope....

Yea what the wings were doing and did over the last 20 years we might not witness another franchise pull something like that in NHL, does any1 know whose after the wings in consecutive playoff?

@dabura jinx!! Don't say things like that! Please!

@shaman it really seems so unfortunately but we have some young players that seem to be taking a step forward between last year and this one hopefully next season they'll show the coaching and improvements Who ever said thee intresr in Quincey I believe when I see it...

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What does that have to do with anything? My point is the Wings have been following a recipe of mediocrity the last few seasons which leave them in the worst possible spot a team can be in: Too good for a high pick, too bad to be an actual contender.

Not to stray too much from the topic at hand.

The mediocre Flames you speak of traded a lot of picks and prospects away trying to become contenders. Holland's not doing that. Which is good. Also, the Flames drafting has been s***tier than Taco Bell. Compare the Flames to St Louis. Very similar arcs, but drastically different results.

Also, unless you want Holland to trade away Datsyuk, Z, Kronwall, and Howard and go into full-blown rebuild, do you really think trading Helm is going to turn us into Chicago or LA in 5 years?

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Not to stray too much from the topic at hand.

The mediocre Flames you speak of traded a lot of picks and prospects away trying to become contenders. Holland's not doing that. Which is good. Also, the Flames drafting has been s***tier than Taco Bell. Compare the Flames to St Louis. Very similar arcs, but drastically different results.

Also, unless you want Holland to trade away Datsyuk, Z, Kronwall, and Howard and go into full-blown rebuild, do you really think trading Helm is going to turn us into Chicago or LA in 5 years?

Those aren't the only players with value. Bertuzzi could easily fetch a 3rd rounder if Rhobidas did, Abdelkader and Andersson both could be worth a high-ish pick based upon the pattern of the last couple years. Even Helm based on what Gaustad got should be worth 2nd or more.

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What does that have to do with anything? My point is the Wings have been following a recipe of mediocrity the last few seasons which leave them in the worst possible spot a team can be in: Too good for a high pick, too bad to be an actual contender.

Actually they've been rebuilding on the fly while maintaining playoff contention.

How this is can be viewed as a negative thing is beyond me...

Enough of this "tank vs all in" mentality.

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Actually they've been rebuilding on the fly while maintaining playoff contention.

How this is can be viewed as a negative thing is beyond me...

Enough of this "tank vs all in" mentality.

About 2/3rds of the teams in the NHL are in playoff contention. Only the very bottom 1/3rd is really out of it at the deadline. This isn't some huge accomplishment.

This season realistically over 3 quarters of the NHL is currently in playoff contention. That includes 7 teams that will be eligible for the draft lottery when it's all said and done.

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About 2/3rds of the teams in the NHL are in playoff contention. Only the very bottom 1/3rd is really out of it at the deadline. This isn't some huge accomplishment.

Exactly. The playing field has leveled and parity is everywhere. Yet we're still right there AND have a deep prospect pool.

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Exactly. The playing field has leveled and parity is everywhere. Yet we're still right there AND have a deep prospect pool.

Every team but the absolute worst teams are right there. And the deep prospect pool is mostly boom/bust types, other than Mantha there is no one in the pool that should be considered as a blue chip prospect.

So as I said, as it stands teams within a couple points of a playoff spot account for 76%+ of the league. Being in playoff contention isn't an accomplishment. Being in Cup contention is what this team should be shooting for.

Remember how Holland's half measures prepared this team for losing 3 defensemen, wait until it's 3 (Z, D and Franzen) top 6 forwards.

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Exactly. The playing field has leveled and parity is everywhere. Yet we're still right there AND have a deep prospect pool.

Every team but the absolute worst teams are right there. And the deep prospect pool is mostly boom/bust types, other than Mantha there is no one in the pool that should be considered as a blue chip prospect.

Sproul, Mrazek, Mantha, Athanasiou, Jurco and Jarnkrok all have top end potential. Pulkinen and Sheahan are potential 2nd line forwards. Marchenko, Ouellet, Backman, and Jensen all project as solid to good NHL d-men. Then there are Nyquist, Tatar, and Dekeyser. This team will not go the way of the Flames.

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