Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

[Shaman 713]

Again to remind everyone of the bare facts:

To improve this team they don't need the Steve Ott's of the world. They have a team full of players that are around the same skill level. They need a top 4 D-man (#2 would be best), and a top 6 winger (30 goal guy preferable).

The baseline for talent at Steve Ott's level will require a high round draft pick and a good prospect (Current asking price 1st rounder and a top prospect for Ott)

Holland has said he was unwilling to part with high draft picks and will more than likely not part with the little blue-chip talent in the farm.

Bottom line: This team will stand pat, when they should be selling given the possible returns on even mid level talent.

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

Again to remind everyone of the bare facts:

To improve this team they don't need the Steve Ott's of the world. They have a team full of players that are around the same skill level. They need a top 4 D-man (#2 would be best), and a top 6 winger (30 goal guy preferable).

The baseline for talent at Steve Ott's level will require a high round draft pick and a good prospect (Current asking price 1st rounder and a top prospect for Ott)

Holland has said he was unwilling to part with high draft picks and will more than likely not part with the little blue-chip talent in the farm.

Bottom line: This team will stand pat, when they should be selling given the possible returns on even mid level talent.

I do agree with all your points but those are still opinions. Not facts.

[wings87 1,290]

Again to remind everyone of the bare facts:

To improve this team they don't need the Steve Ott's of the world. They have a team full of players that are around the same skill level. They need a top 4 D-man (#2 would be best), and a top 6 winger (30 goal guy preferable).

The baseline for talent at Steve Ott's level will require a high round draft pick and a good prospect (Current asking price 1st rounder and a top prospect for Ott)

Holland has said he was unwilling to part with high draft picks and will more than likely not part with the little blue-chip talent in the farm.

Bottom line: This team will stand pat, when they should be selling given the possible returns on even mid level talent.

Why would they sell? The Wings are still in the playoff hunt. And even if they where willing to sell, who on this team would bring a good enough return to make a trade worthwhile? Unless you want them to trade Pav, I guess.

[Buppy 1,720]

St Louis wants to be traded and only to the Rangers. LINK

Per Bob McKenzie

Hmm... Richards back to TB?

Lot of speculation that NY would buy him out, but a trade might be better, even if the Rags have to retain some of the salary. Shave a mil or two off his contract and it doesn't look too bad.

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

Hmm... Richards back to TB?

Lot of speculation that NY would buy him out, but a trade might be better, even if the Rags have to retain some of the salary. Shave a mil or two off his contract and it doesn't look too bad.

That's actually a really interesting thought...could be a win win.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

I doubt Kenny acquires a rental forward, despite our cap situation. But a guy like Tom Gilbert seems like a no brainer to me, logs 20mins a night for the Panthers, has put up great possession stats on a non-playoff team, and has 25 points from the backend. Not to mention he's a RH shot, seems like a very Brad Stuart like pickup.

[wings87 1,290]

That's actually a really interesting thought...could be a win win.

If I was Stevie I wouldn't touch Richards and his contract.

[Dominator2005 558]

I expect MSL for Callahan +

[Richdg 267]

Yes Gilbert would be a nice little pick up. But he is a UFA after the year. So maybe a mid round draft pick? More than that, no thanks.

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

If I was Stevie I wouldn't touch Richards and his contract

That's why Bumpy mentioned salary retention. Obviously would have to be a key part in a deal.

[wings87 1,290]

That's why Bumpy mentioned salary retention. Obviously would have to be a key part in a deal.

I don't think it's just salary, the guy has been underperforming for awhile now. And I'm just not sure he can be better at this point.

[Shaman 713]

Why would they sell? The Wings are still in the playoff hunt. And even if they where willing to sell, who on this team would bring a good enough return to make a trade worthwhile? Unless you want them to trade Pav, I guess.

If Steve Ott is getting interest than about half the Wings' roster would get interest. The reason they would sell is to accumulate assets to either develop long term or to flip at the draft for more proven talent.

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

I don't think it's just salary, the guy has been underperforming for awhile now. And I'm just not sure he can be better at this point.

Right and that's why he will be traded. Rarely do players get traded when they're carrying the team on their back. It's usually when they struggle and he had success in Tampa.

Not saying he has the same value as Callahan. Tampa could always send a bad contract the other way(Malone/Brewer).

[brett 1,029]

does abs have any value? very expandable with the wings

[brooklynsour 31]

Gotta get rid of cleary big Bert and Weiss

[DickieDunn 2,571]

does abs have any value? very expandable with the wings

How so? They have a need for bigger wings, trading one of the few younger big guys they have wouldn't help much

[wings87 1,290]

Right and that's why he will be traded. Rarely do players get traded when they're carrying the team on their back. It's usually when they struggle and he had success in Tampa.

Not saying he has the same value as Callahan. Tampa could always send a bad contract the other way(Malone/Brewer).

I'm sure they'll try to trade him, but a trade of Richards for Marty is not a good return for Tampa.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

I still think Yzerman won't trade him unless he gets full value. St. Louis will get over it eventually, and he really has no leverage right now.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/time-heal-wounds-martin-st-louis-trade-request-011257516--nhl.html

[wings87 1,290]

If Steve Ott is getting interest than about half the Wings' roster would get interest. The reason they would sell is to accumulate assets to either develop long term or to flip at the draft for more proven talent.

So you want to give up on the season just so the Wings can have better players to trade again in a couple months?

Just because Ott is getting interest doesn't mean he's got value. Teams might want to get Ott on the cheap but won't be willing to trade anything of value for him.

I think we have enough unproven talent to develop without adding more. Even if we have players that would draw interest, the Wings don't have a player worth trading that would fetch anything of real value. The problem is that the current Wings team is either made up of unproven youngsters or third and fourth liners.

We shouldn't be trading Pav, Z, Franzen, or Howard. That doesn't leave much to sell.

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

I'm sure they'll try to trade him, but a trade of Richards for Marty is not a good return for Tampa.

Tough to get value when you can only trade with one team and that team knows it...

I guess they can always keep the disgruntled player. But that's good for no one.

[Hockeymom1960 5,107]

You guys realize we are not doing anything, right?

[wings87 1,290]

You guys realize we are not doing anything, right?

Yep, but we gotta talk about something.

[marcaractac 3,963]

Kesler and Edler

[brooklynsour 31]

Lol Weiss smith and Quincy for edler and/ kesler, I don't think we necessarily need a center we have a lot of guys on wing that can probably play middle

[Dominator2005 558]

Lol Weiss smith and Quincy for edler and/ kesler, I don't think we necessarily need a center we have a lot of guys on wing that can probably play middle

Well this team needs some righties