Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

[marcaractac 3,963]

This is not a Red Wing thing, but how long are the Canucks go to keep torturing Luongo? They should just trade him and get it over with, in fact they should have traded him last year and kept Schneider.

I feel awful for him. I always have been, and still am convinced that Lou's struggles at times during the playoffs were the fault of his surroundings. Can you imagine what goes on in that guys head at this point? I bet if he ever were to get away from Vancouver, he'd be back to his old form in no time. That entire organization is a mess. All I can say is good luck to them ever luring a big name UFA.

[FlashyG 1,799]

I agree with flashy but management needs to trade for a dman preferably Weiss and quincy for a strong dman

The problem there is that Weiss is a huge question mark having played so few games over the past 2 seasons and being locked into such a long term expensive deal.

Quincey on the other hand is on an expiring contract so he'd be nothing more than a rental to a contender.

You'll need to add a 1st round pick, or a couple blue chip prospects to that if you want to get a top pairing defenceman (which is what we need) and even then it doesn't mean anything if we don't have Datsyuk and Zetterberg healthy come playoff time.

[wings87 1,290]

I feel awful for him. I always have been, and still am convinced that Lou's struggles at times during the playoffs were the fault of his surroundings. Can you imagine what goes on in that guys head at this point? I bet if he ever were to get away from Vancouver, he'd be back to his old form in no time. That entire organization is a mess. All I can say is good luck to them ever luring a big name UFA.

Exactly, they traded Schneider and dangled playing time in front of Luongo; now they are screwing with him again. If he were a dog PETA would be all over the Canucks for abuse. I wouldn't blame him if he just held out playing and demanded a trade. He was one of the best goalies in the world and he could be again on another team.

[marcaractac 3,963]

If they're taking back bad expiring contracts they're going to want even better prospects in return, who do we part with, Sproul, Ouellet, Backman, Mantha, Mrazek? Not to mention our 1st rounder.

What happens if Datsyuk decides he can't play on his injured knee any further and gets shut down for the year. is our team even with Ehrhoff good enough to make the playoffs missing both the eurotwins? Then we'd be in a situation where we'd have a lottery pick for the first time since its been in existence and it would be Buffalo's.

Unfortunately we're caught in limbo between being a buyer and a seller and generally its smarter to do nothing in that situation.

Ehrhoff is signed beyond this year though. Getting him makes this team better going forward regardless of how you look it at. Whether we are in limbo right now or not, it would be a great pick up. They can't revolve decisions like these based around what ifs. If we have someone hurt, than we need to get better. Not stand pat and be all "better luck next year".

Mantha and Mrazek you'd have to think are untouchable. Especially Mantha. But for Sproul or Oulette to be a part of a package for Ehrhoff? No brainer really. We have plenty of kids in the system.

What you are saying makes sense as far as trading for a rental goes. But that wouldn't be the case here. Ehrhoff is a proven player who can improve this team. Sproul and Oulette are 2 guys who MIGHT improve the team a few years from now.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

Realistically, bringing Kesler here would almost require a 3 way trade. Weiss has no real value right now because of his injuries unless Vancouver decides they don't care if they make the playoffs. So it'd have to be something where Kesler comes here, a center goes to Vancouver, and the Wings send out younger guys and prospects. Legwand, Stastny, Gagner, Zajac, Ennis, Dubinsky, and Kadri are possibilities for that.

[marcaractac 3,963]

Exactly, they traded Schneider and dangled playing time in front of Luongo; now they are screwing with him again. If he were a dog PETA would be all over the Canucks for abuse. I wouldn't blame him if he just held out playing and demanded a trade. He was one of the best goalies in the world and he could be again on another team.

For sure. I've gained so much respect for him with how he handled it all really

[pucktividi 472]

Why should we go after another center even if it's Kesler?Yeah Pasha,Z and Weiss have injury problems at the moment,but they will be here next season and there are Helm,Sheahan and Jarnkrok too.I'd rather go after Moulson,who's ufa winger and should cost much less than Kesler.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

If the Wings can add a good defenseman, I think they're going to be dangerous. If they can get Kesler and a defenseman, they'll be one of the better teams.

Ya and they'd only have to give up something like Tatar jarnkrok ouellet mantha and a 1st to get those 2 guys .... But hey it's worth it

[DickieDunn 2,571]

Ya and they'd only have to give up something like Tatar jarnkrok ouellet mantha and a 1st to get those 2 guys .... But hey it's worth it

Would you trade those guys if it meant winning the Cup this year?

[brett 1,029]

if it makes you happy eklund says wings are in for vanek

only way that makes any sense is if amac is dealt too.

ive heard a lot of bad things about amac do not really want him.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

if it makes you happy eklund says wings are in for vanek

only way that makes any sense is if amac is dealt too.

ive heard a lot of bad things about amac do not really want him.

It does make me happy because that means the Wings won't get him. How anyone still pays attention to eklund is beyond me.

[marcaractac 3,963]

Would you trade those guys if it meant winning the Cup this year?

The way I see it, with the potential Mantha has, to trade him it has to be a package that gets us a non-rental star in return. You don't give up Mantha for someone like Kesler or Edler. You give up Mantha if you have a shot at a guy like Stamkos or Toews. Someone who can become an integral part of the team going forward for years to come. We have other prospects that can get guys like Kesler if Holland wanted him bad enough.

if it makes you happy eklund says wings are in for vanek

only way that makes any sense is if amac is dealt too.

ive heard a lot of bad things about amac do not really want him.

Wings aren't going to go after a rental

[ShanahanMan 473]

Sedin looks like he was injured pretty bad tonight. There's no way Vancouver trades Kesler when Sedin is down and the team can't score.

All but certain Edler with his -23 gets moved though.

[T.Low 1,011]

This is not a Red Wing thing, but how long are the Canucks go to keep torturing Luongo? They should just trade him and get it over with, in fact they should have traded him last year and kept Schneider.

He is easy to trade, but his contract is not.

And I wouldn't mind living his "tortured" life.

[marcaractac 3,963]

He is easy to trade, but his contract is not.

And I wouldn't mind living his "tortured" life.

Money isn't everything to some people

[T.Low 1,011]

Money isn't everything to some people

Believe it or not, sports is even less to some.

In the big picture, he's still living a fantasy life, one which the rest of us could only dream about. He realizes how fortunate he is, which is why he has been relatively cool about the whole thing.

Edited March 3, 2014 by T.Low

[marcaractac 3,963]

Believe it or not, sports is even less to some.

In the big picture, he's still living a fantasy life, one which the rest of us could only dream about. He realizes how fortunate he is, which is why he has been relatively cool about the whole thing.

It's neat that you can read his mind

[T.Low 1,011]

It's neat that you can read his mind

Living in the Canuck market, I've actually heard him say as much on occasion via radio sound bites and interviews . We also hear about how impossible it's been to move his contract, even though teams would really like to have him.

[MasterPavel 115]

Nvm

Edited March 3, 2014 by MasterPavel

[FlashyG 1,799]

Ehrhoff is signed beyond this year though. Getting him makes this team better going forward regardless of how you look it at. Whether we are in limbo right now or not, it would be a great pick up. They can't revolve decisions like these based around what ifs. If we have someone hurt, than we need to get better. Not stand pat and be all "better luck next year".

Mantha and Mrazek you'd have to think are untouchable. Especially Mantha. But for Sproul or Oulette to be a part of a package for Ehrhoff? No brainer really. We have plenty of kids in the system.

What you are saying makes sense as far as trading for a rental goes. But that wouldn't be the case here. Ehrhoff is a proven player who can improve this team. Sproul and Oulette are 2 guys who MIGHT improve the team a few years from now.

It wouldn't be a great pick-up at all if it costs us our first round pick. Right now we're 5 pts out of drafting 8th overall, and 8 pts away from picking 6th. That would give us around a 10% chance at picking 1st overall. Our Captain is injured for the rest of the season, and will be lucky to be back even for the 1st round, and our best player is clearly playing injured to the point of not practicing on off days.

Maybe I'm overvaluing potential but I think we're a far better team holding onto that pick and all our prospects rather than gambling that Ehrhoff who hasn't exactly elevated any of the 3 teams he's played for to new heights, will bring us back to the cup.

Also I wouldn't say Mrazek is untouchable, of all our top prospects he's probably the most easily traded. He's not going to be more than a back-up goalie for at least a few years, and would probably be better served playing somewhere where he'll get to start. The problem is goalies with no NHL experience aren't going to return much no matter how high their potential.

[marcaractac 3,963]

Living in the Canuck market, I've actually heard him say as much on occasion via radio sound bites and interviews . We also hear about how impossible it's been to move his contract, even though teams would really like to have him.

Understandable. Still is kind of unfortunate what he has to put up with though. If I was dealing with that and had the media asking about it every single day, I would definitely handle it a lot worse. Making big bucks or not, I'd definitely have a lot of choice words for my employers lol.

I always figured a big part of his handling it well was to not look bad for potential suitors in a trade.

[wings87 1,290]

He is easy to trade, but his contract is not.

And I wouldn't mind living his "tortured" life.

People make mistakes all the time thinking someone else's life is better then their own, you might not like being in his life even with all his millions.

He is still in his prime and wants to play, nothing wrong with that. The Wings treat their minor leaguers better then Lou gets treated, not surprised Kesler wants out of there.

[FlashyG 1,799]

Would you trade those guys if it meant winning the Cup this year?

We all would, but unless both Zetterberg and Datsyuk are healthy we aren't winning the cup with Kesler and Edler anyways.

There will always be players of their caliber available at the trade deadline, and I wouldn't be opposed to trading prospects to get them if I thought it would make us legitimate contenders for the cup, but this year I don't think there is any moves available that put us in that category given our injury situation

[marcaractac 3,963]

It wouldn't be a great pick-up at all if it costs us our first round pick. Right now we're 5 pts out of drafting 8th overall, and 8 pts away from picking 6th. That would give us around a 10% chance at picking 1st overall. Our Captain is injured for the rest of the season, and will be lucky to be back even for the 1st round, and our best player is clearly playing injured to the point of not practicing on off days.

Maybe I'm overvaluing potential but I think we're a far better team holding onto that pick and all our prospects rather than gambling that Ehrhoff who hasn't exactly elevated any of the 3 teams he's played for to new heights, will bring us back to the cup.

Also I wouldn't say Mrazek is untouchable, of all our top prospects he's probably the most easily traded. He's not going to be more than a back-up goalie for at least a few years, and would probably be better served playing somewhere where he'll get to start. The problem is goalies with no NHL experience aren't going to return much no matter how high their potential.

Regardless of how close in the standings this team may be to these high picks, in the end our pick won't be anywhere near it. This team has too much pride to s*** the bed for a good pick. It isn't the Red Wing way, and I am proud of that.

Also, nobody is saying Ehrhoff is gonna come in and elevate us to new heights. He would be a piece that fits in well and make our team faster and harder to play against with his puck moving ability. We're not expecting him to come to Detroit and be Lidstrom.

We all would, but unless both Zetterberg and Datsyuk are healthy we aren't winning the cup with Kesler and Edler anyways.

There will always be players of their caliber available at the trade deadline, and I wouldn't be opposed to trading prospects to get them if I thought it would make us legitimate contenders for the cup, but this year I don't think there is any moves available that put us in that category given our injury situation

Like I said before, this makes sense for trading for rentals. If we were to land 2 players like that now, they'd still be here. Along with Dats and Hank. I definitely don't think Holland should make a move just for the sake of it. But if the price is within reason and it a player who would be around beyond this season, go for it.

[T.Low 1,011]

Kind of unfortunate, indeed.

And likewise, if I were his employer I would have had a few choice words for him when he wet the bed against Chicago, and then again numerous times in Boston. He is definitely a contributor to his own current predicament.

And his play of late is why he sat the Heritage.