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#1 Son of a Wing

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 01:40 PM

I feel there is a wide range of opinions on what our RFAs will earn in the upcoming year/s going forward.  Figured it would make for good discussion.

 

There are 4 guys who have played a role on our team this year with an expiring contract and RFA status. - Dekeyser, Tatar, Sheahan, Glendening.

 

Give your opinion on the contract value and term involved. Keep in mind when UFA status is for each player.  I will list details for each.

 

 

 

Dekeyser    - Undoubtedly a top 3 defenceman on this team right now.

                   - UFA going into 2017/18 when he is entering the season over 27.

                   - 2 year bridge deal or long-term lockup?

 

Tatar           - Promising young player who's developing into a top 6-9 scoring forward. 

                   - UFA going into 2017/18 when he will be entering his 8th contract year.

                   - 2 year bridge deal or long-term lockup?

 

Sheahan     - 1st round pick. High potential to become solid 2-way forward.

                   - UFA going into 2018/19 when he will be entering his 8th contract year.

                   - 1-3 year bridge deal or long-term lockup?

 

Glendening - Future/current grinder and penalty killer. 4th liner.

                   - UFA going into 2016/17 when he is entering the season over 27.

                   - Year-by-year or multi-year deal?

                   - Qualifying offer(aka minimum) is 605,000.

 

 

*Only included RFA players who have earned a role so far with the Wings or played significant time. So no Callahan, Ferraro, Emmerton or Almquist.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 04:01 PM

Dekeyser 3 year bridge @ 3 million per
Tatar same @ 2.0 per year
Tinky 2 years 1.5 per

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 04:29 PM

Dekeyser 5 @ $4.5M.

Tatar 4 @ $3M

Sheahan  3 @ $1.5M

Glendening 2 @ $1M

 

Dekeyser, I have no problem paying him that much right now. He is already on par, arguably better, than Ericssons. I would do 8 years @ $5M per and be satisfied.



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 04:43 PM

Dekeyser 3 year bridge @ 3 million per
Tatar same @ 2.0 per year
Tinky 2 years 1.5 per


Keep in mind last year Subban signed a bridge deal for 2 years at 2.875 cap hit. Not saying that DK isn't worth 3 at 3 because I think he definitely is, just that we may be able to sign him for less. Also that this past offseason we signed Nyquist for 950,000 hit for 2 years, so Sheahan should get somewhere around there. That said though I'd be happy with all three of those deals you have.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 04:48 PM

Also keep in mind that if Dekeyser and Tatar sign 3 year deals that puts them right into UFA status at the end.


"The leader must never close the gap between himself and the group. If he does, he is no longer what he must be. He must walk a tightrope between the consent he must win and the control he must exert."
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When asked who won, Babcock said, “Well it doesn’t really matter as long as you don’t lose. It’s like going bear hunting, you take a slow guy with you in case the bear is hungry.”

#6 DickieDunn

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 04:49 PM

There is no way in hell Glendening should get $1 mil. Hell get abut $700k and be happy.

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 04:57 PM

Wow, you guys are generous when it comes to someone else's money

 

None of these guys have earned that much of a raise....this is more like it...

 

 

Dekeyser - 2yrs @ $2.5M-$2.75M per.

 

Tatar - 2yrs @ $1.125M-$1.5M per

 

Sheahan - See Tatar

 

Glendening - 2yrs @ $925K per

 

..after these contracts, then they may hit paydirt.

 

I say 2 years because these guys will still be RFA's after the contract (as someone mentioned above) that way you have exclusive rights to them.  After 2 years, I can see some of those numbers you guys are talking about, on 5-8 year contract...maybe more than you guys are talking about!


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 05:24 PM

Wow, you guys are generous when it comes to someone else's money

 

None of these guys have earned that much of a raise....this is more like it...

 

 

Dekeyser - 2yrs @ $2.5M-$2.75M per.

 

Tatar - 2yrs @ $1.125M-$1.5M per

 

Sheahan - See Tatar

 

Glendening - 2yrs @ $925K per

 

..after these contracts, then they may hit paydirt.

 

I say 2 years because these guys will still be RFA's after the contract (as someone mentioned above) that way you have exclusive rights to them.  After 2 years, I can see some of those numbers you guys are talking about, on 5-8 year contract...maybe more than you guys are talking about!

Leftwinger is closer to reality...

 

I'll go a little lower

 

DeKeyser 2.65 for 2 years

Tatar 1.2 for 2 years

Sheahan 850K for 2 years

Glendening 700K for 2 year



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 05:28 PM

I don't think dragonballgtz is that far off for the term he's stating them for.

 

D would probably get around 5 years @ 4 mil if they were talking a longer contract. 

 

If we're going to sign any of them longer term, Dekeyser would be the safest bet.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 06:26 PM

I don't think dragonballgtz is that far off for the term he's stating them for.
 
D would probably get around 5 years @ 4 mil if they were talking a longer contract. 
 
If we're going to sign any of them longer term, Dekeyser would be the safest bet.

If he can stay healthy, I'd agree.
I also cant see sheahan, or Tatar for that matter, getting bridge deals worth more than Nyquist, as some have stated.
Sheahan because he's our 3rd line center with injuries, who knows if hell stay there or move to wing.
Tatar because he's a 3rd line winger, presumably for the next year or two...
And I agree on the two year bridge deals, but deke may take a longer contract at a lower number for His age, and his upside could get him paid more when he does come up for a new contract.

4 yrs hell just be entering his prime, the cap will be higher so if he proves he can be a #1d or even a top pairing guy hell be in for a much bigger pay day.

Edited by jimmyemeryhunter, 06 February 2014 - 06:27 PM.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 06:47 PM

My predictions are pretty close to Matthewdanna's.  DeKeyser $2.5M, 3 years; Tatar $1.25M, 2 years; Sheahan $900K, 2 years; Glendening $700K, 2 years.  Keep in mind, Glendening may not even make the roster to start next year...



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 06:51 PM

Quincey 8 years 56 million, Cleary, 5 years 20 million, no cap or roster space for the kids, sorry guys.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:11 PM

Lol @ 5 mil for DD. 15+M for the worst top 3 in the NHL. DD deserves 2.5M a season but he has us by the balls sooo
Holland really should pick up a top 4 defensemen somehow at the deadline to replace Quincey or we're going to overpay him or have a much worse Defense then this year

Edited by joesuffP, 06 February 2014 - 07:10 PM.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:13 PM

D is going to get 2.5 + logging big minutes and our 3rd guy

tats is going to get 2 + could be 20 goal scorer in his first season 40pts on the 3rd line

sheahan 1.5

glendening 900k



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:38 PM

Based on the deals that other recent RFAs have gotten

Tatar-$1.4

Sheahan-$900k

Glendening-$650k

Dekeyser-either 2 years at $2.7 or 4 years at $3.4

Almquist-$600k, might go to Europe instead

Ferraro -$600k


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 08:48 PM

Quincey 8 years 56 million, Cleary, 5 years 20 million, no cap or roster space for the kids, sorry guys.

don't forget Sammy and Bert...because we liked our team at the start of the season

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 01:08 AM

If he can stay healthy, I'd agree.
I also cant see sheahan, or Tatar for that matter, getting bridge deals worth more than Nyquist, as some have stated.
Sheahan because he's our 3rd line center with injuries, who knows if hell stay there or move to wing.
Tatar because he's a 3rd line winger, presumably for the next year or two...
And I agree on the two year bridge deals, but deke may take a longer contract at a lower number for His age, and his upside could get him paid more when he does come up for a new contract.

4 yrs hell just be entering his prime, the cap will be higher so if he proves he can be a #1d or even a top pairing guy hell be in for a much bigger pay day.

That's why I would want DD in a long term 8 year contract now. In his prime, I can imagine him becoming a good #2 in the likes of Stuart. Maybe a dumb play every once in awhile, human nature, but he will be able to shut other teams down.

 

Tatar I just think will get Flip like money/contract. The first year of Flip's 5y/$15M contract, the cap was $56.7M. If they sign Tatar to a similar contract it will be 4-5 years @ $3M with the cap being ~$71M.

 

Nyquist will still get a better deal than Tatar. $4 or $4.5 easily for Nyquist if he continues to perform at his current level and since he will be 25 years old by then, prime time baby.


Edited by dragonballgtz, 07 February 2014 - 01:11 AM.






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