Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 40 - 13 - 8 93 - 90 - 11 14 - 18 - 44 71 - 20 - 21 That's what I would do for opening night, but I suspect Samuelsson will find his way in there somehow. I dunno about Tatar on the fourth line, I would switch him and Bert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 I dunno about Tatar on the fourth line, I would switch him and Bert Agreed. I would probably rather have Tatar there too, but I'm not sure Babcock is going to put both him and Nyquist on the same line yet. I think Tatar is going to get eased into a larger role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Agreed. I would probably rather have Tatar there too, but I'm not sure Babcock is going to put both him and Nyquist on the same line yet. I think Tatar is going to get eased into a larger role. I really hope not. Him and goose with Andy would be a deadly third line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingedominance13 112 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 I really hope not. Him and goose with Andy would be a deadly third line While I love andy, I would take a healthy helm centering those two 7 days a week. Think of the speed that would line have and helm is defensive minded like andy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewdanna 143 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Opening Night: Z - Pavs - Abby Mule - Weiss - Alfie Gus - Andy - Tatar Miller - Cleary - Bert Bench: Sammy/Tootoo Kronner - E DD - Kindl Smith - Q Bench: Lash Howie Mrazek LTIR: Helm, Eaves IR: Monster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 While I love andy, I would take a healthy helm centering those two 7 days a week. Think of the speed that would line have and helm is defensive minded like andy. ... But helm isn't even cleared for contact yet, so that is a moot point. Obviously I would love to see helm out there again, but I'm being realistic, he is our best current healthy 3rd line center until the return of the helminator 1 wingedominance13 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewdanna 143 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive2m Wings have assigned Nyquist and Mrazek to Grand Rapids, Ken Holland said. Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive2m Wings have assigned Nyquist and Mrazek to Grand Rapids, Ken Holland said. Man, this is just wrong... Is this a paper move? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive2m Wings have assigned Nyquist and Mrazek to Grand Rapids, Ken Holland said. Man, this is just wrong... Is this a paper move? Seems like it. Someone has to back up Howie. But it's probably gonna be that way for a bit till someone can get moved off the team or put on ltir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive2m Wings have assigned Nyquist and Mrazek to Grand Rapids, Ken Holland said. Man, this is just wrong... Is this a paper move? Yes, at least with Mrazek. With Gustavsson's injured, the Wings will have no backup if Mrazek is down. He'll be back. I'm not sure about Nyquist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewdanna 143 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Dana Wakiji @FSDwakiji5m #RedWings Babcock: He's a gd player. (Tatar) has a knack for the net. But early going in the season, tie goes to the veteran not to the kid. Dana Wakiji @FSDwakiji5m #RedWings Babcock: He's a gd player. (Tatar) has a knack for the net. But early going in the season, tie goes to the veteran not to the kid. Who exactly was the "Tie" with? I want to hear him say Sammy "tied" him... what a joke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Didn't tatar have most preseason goals? and like 3rd in points or something? f*** you babcock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Dana Wakiji @FSDwakiji5m[font=Arial #RedWings Babcock: He's a gd player. (Tatar) has a knack for the net. But early going in the season, tie goes to the veteran not to the kid.[/font] Who exactly was the "Tie" with? I want to hear him say Sammy "tied" him... what a joke That's ridiculous! Tatar has been one of the best players on the team this preseason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Learn2LuvIt 245 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 While I love andy, I would take a healthy helm centering those two 7 days a week. Think of the speed that would line have and helm is defensive minded like andy. It might as well be a dream though. I'm losing faith in Helm...big time. When he played he was very good for a 3rd center, excellent maybe top in the league 4th line center. IDK...he may just be that hockey player that is no longer able to get back to where he once was, or ever recover at all. Many, many former pro athletes have fallen into this category. No one is at fault, it's just an injury that doesn't go away and ends a career. I'm not counting on him anymore that is for dam sure. IF, IF, he comes back that would be great. Just don't see him coming back and being able to contribute as he once did. My desired line combinations don't have him included. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 I can't speak for Babs, obviously - but if we just look at it on the surface, what do those three guys have that Tatar doesn't? Experience (seniority), size, and pretty well-rounded games. I imagine that last one might be the main issue re: Tatar. And, really, it's no big secret that the biggest knock against Tatar, besides his size and his personality/attitude, is that he's a rather one-dimensional player. Which is a nice, euphemistic way of saying his defensive game sucks. Not that I really think that should be a huge issue (it's not like the team as a whole isn't very, very strong defensively and couldn't compensate. And, besides, hes a young goal-scorer. Show me a young goal-scorer with a great two-way game.) But, meh, whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick D 350 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Will this work?? FORWARDSHenrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($5.500m)Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m)Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)Danny Cleary ($1.750m) DEFENSEMENNiklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m)Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Brendan Smith ($1.263m)Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) / GOALTENDERSJimmy Howard ($5.292m)Petr Mrazek ($0.790m) OTHERIR: Jordin TootooIR: Darren HelmIR: Patrick EavesIR: Jonas Gustavsson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Will this work?? FORWARDS Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($5.500m) Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) Danny Cleary ($1.750m) DEFENSEMEN Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Brendan Smith ($1.263m) Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) / GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($5.292m) Petr Mrazek ($0.790m) OTHER IR: Jordin Tootoo IR: Darren Helm IR: Patrick Eaves IR: Jonas Gustavsson lol @cleary being scratched! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted September 30, 2013 lol @cleary being scratched! Cleary looked surprisingly good during the first game against the Leafs. His biggest problem last season was his footspeed, and it seemed much improved in that game. Beyond that, Cleary is on the roster because he's one of the few grit players the Wings have, and also one of the only guys with the ability and willingness to screen the opposing goaltender. If Cleary can return to 2010-2011 form, I'll be thrilled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naps137 5 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTERMy Custom LineupFORWARDSHenrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($5.500m)Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m)Danny Cleary ($1.750m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Drew Miller ($1.350m)DEFENSEMENNiklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) / Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m)Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) / Brendan Smith ($1.263m)Adam Almquist ($0.694m) /GOALTENDERSJimmy Howard ($5.292m)Petr Mrazek ($0.790m)OTHERBuried: Mikael Samuelsson ($2.075m)Buried: Jordin Tootoo ($0.975m)Buried: Jonas Gustavsson ($0.575m)------CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,148,712; BONUSES: $2,920,000CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $71,288 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 I guess Babs believes you have to lose your job (talking veterans) for roster space, rather then being young and earning it? If Tatar and Nyquist aren't in opening night the whole "we make sure we put out the best team each night" goes suspect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted September 30, 2013 Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive 6h Tatar said he thinks he will be a healthy scratch on Wednesday I know Babcock loves the vets,but Tatar absolutely earned a spot.It's pretty tough to be a youngster in a Wings locker room that's for sure."Luckily" we're short of quality D men,otherwise Danny D would be already in Grand Rapids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted October 20, 2013 Zetterberg Datsyuk Vanek The rest doesn't matter. We could ride that line to the Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted October 20, 2013 OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG WHERE DOES HE SLOT IN? THIRD OR FOURTH LINE? omgomgomgomg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted October 20, 2013 I think fourth line while he's getting his game conditioning up. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted October 20, 2013 What I want to know is why Alfredsson can be put on the third but not Franzen. It's never even been tried. Notice the second line for years has been lackluster and he is the common denominator. What about: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi Tatar-Weiss-Alfredsson Franzen-Andersson-Abdelkader Tootoo-Glendening-Miller Tatar can provide Franzen like offense, and his defensive lapses will he offset by Weiss and Alfredsson. It also puts two finishers on the second line. Franzen could open up on the third line and be forced to play more aggressively. I know Tatar isn't necessarily ready for second line duties, but it's worth a shot early in the season. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 20, 2013 Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Alfredsson Bertuzzi - Weiss - Franzen Tatar - Helm - Abdelkader Miller - Andersson - Cleary There's no reason to break up the highly productive line; that second line worked well when it was tried; the third would be able to score; and the 4th would be quite good defensively. 1 Shaman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites