brett 1,029 Report post Posted November 11, 2013 how much longer for weisser and big E? weiss doesnt appear to be skating E maybe friday http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/11/red_wings_johan_franzen_will_r_2.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted November 11, 2013 I imagine Ericsson has been ready for a while and can go after the deadline of the 15th. Sucks for Weiss he was finally starting to do good things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfan1991 221 Report post Posted November 11, 2013 Cleary healthy scratch wow Babs finally, impressed! 1 b.shanafan14 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted November 11, 2013 (edited) This can't be true, can it?... Dan Cleary has been on the team this whole time?? Edited November 11, 2013 by b.shanafan14 1 Motown4013 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted November 11, 2013 Yeah WOW Cleary a healthy scratch?? Is this the real life? WONDERFUL news Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 11, 2013 Now Khan is saying "might" be scratched. Cleary, meanwhile, has just one goal and two assists, along with a plus-1 rating, in 18 games. He was wearing a gray jersey in Monday’s practicing, usually reserved for players who are scratched the next game. Coach Mike Babcock, however, said, “Well I wouldn’t speculate on anything until tomorrow comes.’’ Babcock said of Cleary, “For a guy of his hockey sense and his ability he’s got to be a factor every night and I don’t see that.’’ Cleary said he spoke to Babcock before practice. “I just have to play better,’’ Cleary said. http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/11/red_wings_johan_franzen_will_r_2.html Commence overreacting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted November 11, 2013 Why did the Cleary thread get shut down? I thought we were against catch-all threads here at LGW? I wouldn't have wondered into yet another lines thread to find out Cleary was finally, hopefully, potentially being benched if it wasn't for that other thread. So...what gives? 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted November 11, 2013 Now Khan is saying "might" be scratched. http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/11/red_wings_johan_franzen_will_r_2.html It's been a "might" status all along. Nothings been confirmed and Babcock himself has stated it depends on a few factors like Franzen's health. He even said don't spend much time speculating because it could all change tomorrow. Commence overreacting. Sometimes I think you just like to stir the pot lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 11, 2013 It's been a "might" status all along. Nothings been confirmed and Babcock himself has stated it depends on a few factors like Franzen's health. He even said don't spend much time speculating because it could all change tomorrow. Sometimes I think you just like to stir the pot lol Agreed, but look how quickly that "might" became a definite thing to people in this thread. As for the overreacting, I just had a hunch that would be what would happen. As that's how all things Cleary tend to be here. Why did the Cleary thread get shut down? I thought we were against catch-all threads here at LGW? I wouldn't have wondered into yet another lines thread to find out Cleary was finally, hopefully, potentially being benched if it wasn't for that other thread. So...what gives? There was an explanation at the end of the locked thread. The topic was about Franzen, Cleary and Nyquist. Essentially it was a dupe of this discussion. I'm not sure but maybe it would be better to have pre-game update threads or something to that effect, that would be a split off version of this thread. Because the lines thread makes sense as a topic but you're right it will become unwieldy. I'm open to suggestions. And when Cleary is confirmed scratched someone can create a thread in which everyone can rejoice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted November 11, 2013 Dunno what's the better news.Cleary scratched or Kindl and Quincey splitted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Wing 1,521 Report post Posted November 11, 2013 I am of the mind that the pieces to win (I mean they are technically 'winning' now but they're not destroying things, you know Lilja Smash, that sort of thing) but they haven't hit the right combinations yet. This is a deep and experienced group of forwards. The kids earned their varsity letters in last year's run. They just need to hit on the right combos. I'd say if they decide that no, they don't have what they want see what Franzen would bring on the open market. If it's not enough don't make a deal. Just get in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted November 11, 2013 Ugh one crappy player (Cleary) for another crappy player (Sammy). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted November 11, 2013 I am of the mind that the pieces to win (I mean they are technically 'winning' now but they're not destroying things, you know Lilja Smash, that sort of thing) but they haven't hit the right combinations yet. This is a deep and experienced group of forwards. The kids earned their varsity letters in last year's run. They just need to hit on the right combos. I'd say if they decide that no, they don't have what they want see what Franzen would bring on the open market. If it's not enough don't make a deal. Just get in the playoffs. You're speaking too sensibly for lgw.Throw some hate in there, or some anger towards holland, babs, Cleary, Sammy, and franzen and then you'll be in business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted November 12, 2013 I am of the mind that the pieces to win (I mean they are technically 'winning' now but they're not destroying things, you know Lilja Smash, that sort of thing) but they haven't hit the right combinations yet. This is a deep and experienced group of forwards. The kids earned their varsity letters in last year's run. They just need to hit on the right combos. I'd say if they decide that no, they don't have what they want see what Franzen would bring on the open market. If it's not enough don't make a deal. Just get in the playoffs. My head hurt trying to read this. lol I think I got your overall message. In regards to Franzen, it's keep or buyout. I can't ever see us trading him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) Ugh one crappy player (Cleary) for another crappy player (Sammy). 3 points in 18 games vs. 1 in 6. Brightside: At least Sammy can keep up with others and doesn't fall down as much, amirite? Edited November 12, 2013 by e_prime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted November 12, 2013 Weebles in for Cleary tomorrow night, they may wobble but at least they don't fall down! http://youtu.be/dFzhjnjXc2o?t=20s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWang 422 Report post Posted November 12, 2013 Idk if its been posted yet but, cleary mlive article. http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/11/offensively_challenged_red_win_1.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted November 12, 2013 Idk if its been posted yet but, cleary mlive article. http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/11/offensively_challenged_red_win_1.html Well Holland and Babcock some of us non delusional fans saw this coming. But hey what do we know we're just fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted November 12, 2013 Just because you keep shaking up the lines doesn't mean you will strike gold. To do that you have to shake up the players not just the lines you put them on. The only guy that can fix a linemate is probably Datsyuk and even then it took Abby months to score his first goal playing with Datsyuk on the same line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted November 12, 2013 DETROIT – Mike Babcock has a pretty good idea of the state of mind Daniel Cleary might be in, but the Red Wings’ coach doesn’t care about feelings. “My job each and every day is to put the best 20 guys in the lineup that I think can help us win today,” said Babcock, who made the decision to scratch Cleary from tonight’s lineup against the Winnipeg Jets at Joe Louis Arena. “I’ve been with Clears for nine years, I know him well,” Babcock said. “There’s no one who’s a bigger fan of Dan Cleary than Mike Babcock. I imagine he’s very pissed off today and I don’t know what you want me to do about it.” Well he didn't lie about being Cleary's biggest fan. lol Hopefully he's starting to get a little fed up. Detroitredwings.com Article Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) Well he didn't lie about being Cleary's biggest fan. lol Hopefully he's starting to get a little fed up. Detroitredwings.com Article While I'm definitely in favor of sitting Cleary, this whole "We need more secondary scoring, and Cleary isn't contributing at the level we need him to" business rings hollow for me. Like, Babs is only now realizing that Cleary is basically a glorified enforcer (who doesn't intimidate, never mind fight and enforce)? The guy can barely get through a shift without falling down - and when he's on his skates, he's one of the slowest players in the league. And these aren't new issues, nor is it hard for even the casual fan to notice them. (My dad, an extremely casual fan, calls Cleary "Mr. Tar Pit.") It just strikes me as a very convenient "statement" meant to give the appearance of a "shake-up," when, in reality, you're sitting a borderline fourth-liner who was re-signed for "veteran leadership" and sentimentality, not point production. But maybe I'm being too critical. Maybe Babs' head really has been so far up Cleary's butt that he really is only now realizing his FAVORITEST PLAYER EVAR is not a top-six scoring winger. If so...yikes. Edited November 12, 2013 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 Babs is nuts: Zetteberg-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi Franzen-Helm-Alfredsson Cleary-Andersson-Samuelsson Miller-Glendening-Abdelkader Tatar is... OUT Defence is: Kronwall-Ericsson DeKeyser-Quincey Lashoff-Kindl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 Babs is nuts: Zetteberg-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi Franzen-Helm-Alfredsson Cleary-Andersson-Samuelsson Miller-Glendening-Abdelkader Tatar is... OUT Defence is: Kronwall-Ericsson DeKeyser-Quincey Lashoff-Kindl Might indicate Holland plans on moving Tatar... that would push me over the edge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 That third line...GOOD LORD 1 DatsyukianDekes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) So, when Babs came to practice this morning, his idea of breaking the losing streak was to play Cleary and Samuelsson on the third line? How does Tatar deserve to be a healthy scratch over those two? Babs and Holland are two of the best, but I have no idea what the hell they are doing this season. Edited November 14, 2013 by GoWings1905 1 dirtydangles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites