unsaddleddonald 357 Report post Posted November 21, 2013 Judging by how things go with Babcock, Cleary will be on the top line Called it. http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/11/red_wings_recall_gustav_nyquis_3.html#incart_river 1 RedWang reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 21, 2013 He basically told Nyquist that he has to be mind-blowingly good to have a spot on the team. Disgraceful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) I've got to wonder if anyone finds complaining cathartic. Called it. http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/11/red_wings_recall_gustav_nyquis_3.html#incart_river I didn't say otherwise. I did say that he won't last. And frankly he's only there because of injuries. If Weiss or Alfredsson were able to play, Cleary would very likely be scratched. That said, it continues to bother me that Cleary gets preference over Tatar. Given how slow and stupid Cleary has become, Tatar is better at literally everything. Edited November 21, 2013 by Crymson 1 RedWang reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UpstateNYRedWingsFan 42 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 As bad as the team has been lately, they have 10 "top 9 guys" when everyone is healthy. Z-P-Bert Mule-Weiss-Alf Tats-Helm-Abby Now including Nyquist you have to have him up there. Problem is you don't want to break up that third line and I think Abdelkader is critical to that lines success so I don't think putting him on the 4th line works. He is also too good to get 4th line minutes with what he can bring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 As bad as the team has been lately, they have 10 "top 9 guys" when everyone is healthy. Z-P-Bert Mule-Weiss-Alf Tats-Helm-Abby Now including Nyquist you have to have him up there. Problem is you don't want to break up that third line and I think Abdelkader is critical to that lines success so I don't think putting him on the 4th line works. He is also too good to get 4th line minutes with what he can bring. So pump Mule onto the First and move Bert down to 4th. Nyquist fills in the second line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 So pump Mule onto the First and move Bert down to 4th. Nyquist fills in the second line. Why not leave pav and z split and go with something like this... Weiss-pav-alfy Goose-z-mule Abby-helm-Tatar Bert-Andy-miller That should be a very good offense 1 dirtydangles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 Why not leave pav and z split and go with something like this... Weiss-pav-alfy Goose-z-mule Abby-helm-Tatar Bert-Andy-miller That should be a very good offense I hadn't thought of that... Ideally we want Weiss to get going at 2C but maybe that would work for now. Its balanced for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 I hadn't thought of that... Ideally we want Weiss to get going at 2C but maybe that would work for now. Its balanced for sure. Weiss can even play some center on that line, but really it shouldn't matter as it should be a free flowing dangerous line. Gustav nyquist actually completely changes the dynamic if this team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWang 422 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Why not leave pav and z split and go with something like this... Weiss-pav-alfy Goose-z-mule Abby-helm-Tatar Bert-Andy-miller That should be a very good offense Uknow, i havent thought of this either...come to think of it, its absolutely perfect! Think about it, Weiss needs to get his mojo going, his scoring touch if you will. Now what better way to get a guy producing than with arguably 2 of the best setup men in the league, in NHL history? Now the second line will FORCE mule to play better just to keep up with Z, and a ROOKIE. Talk about lighting a fire under a guy. I expect that line to roll like weve only seen from ZDB line this season, possibly better. 3rd line, No problem, Abby-helm-tatar is such a solid and classic line combo. Grinder/skater/scorer, potentially modernizing the days of gold Grind Line, with less toughness and slightly more skill. 4th line, Miller-Andy/preferably Glendening-Bert, who will add alot to our 4th line, all the while playing where a player of his age and physical satus should be playing. The real question is wether or not Babs will let them play together for more than one game and let them build some chemistry. He also must, pull his head out of his ass and remove Cleary from this team. But all in all, if we can stay healthy that is one damn fine lineup. Edited November 22, 2013 by RedWang 1 BadgerBob reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 Uknow, i havent thought of this either...come to think of it, its absolutely perfect! Think about it, Weiss needs to get his mojo going, his scoring touch if you will. Now what better way to get a guy producing than with arguably 2 of the best setup men in the league, in NHL history? Now the second line will FORCE mule to play better just to keep up with Z, and a ROOKIE. Talk about lighting a fire under a guy. I expect that line to roll like weve only seen from ZDB line this season, possibly better. 3rd line, No problem, Abby-helm-tatar is such a solid and classic line combo. Grinder/skater/scorer, potentially modernizing the days of gold Grind Line, with less toughness and slightly more skill. 4th line, Miller-Andy/preferably Glendening-Bert, who will add alot to our 4th line, all the while playing where a player of his age and physical satus should be playing. The real question is wether or not Babs will let them play together for more than one game and let them build some chemistry. He also must, pull his head out of his ass and remove Cleary from this team. But all in all, if we can stay healthy that is one damn fine lineup. Yes that is damn good lineup and it should score a lot. Powerplay I would have pav,z,mule,Weiss,Tatar,nyquist up front whatever combos work and I would have alfy on the point. I would also try smith with kindl on the 2nd unit point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 I think we can all agree with Weiss and Alfie back, and Nyquist and Tatar up, we can roll 4 pretty good forward lines, even if it means having Cleary or Sammy playing on the 4th line. Its the defence that worries me. After Kronner/E/DD there is a HUGE drop-off to the bottom 3. No amount of line juggling can hide that fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 Franzen Datsyuk Bertuzzi Zetterberg Weiss Alfy NyQ Helm Tatar Miller Andy Abby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 22, 2013 Alfredsson - Datsyuk - Bertuzzi Zetterberg - Franzen - Nyquist Weiss - Helm - Tatar Miller - Andersson - Abdelkader Kronwall - Ericsson Kindl - Quincey Lashoff - Smith I don't like those defense pairings, but such is life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 If healthy I want Weiss on pavels wing. Weiss-datsyuk-alfy Nyq-z-mule Abby-helm-Tatar Miller-Andy-Bert Pp units: Tatar(net front/popping out in the slot)-dats-z Alfy- kronner Mule(same as Tatar)-Weiss-nyquist Smith(until DD is back/he excels and stays-kindl 2 BadgerBob and Cloune reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 If healthy I want Weiss on pavels wing. Weiss-datsyuk-alfy Nyq-z-mule Abby-helm-Tatar Miller-Andy-Bert Pp units: Tatar(net front/popping out in the slot)-dats-z Alfy- kronner Mule(same as Tatar)-Weiss-nyquist Smith(until DD is back/he excels and stays-kindl Hmm. You could be on to something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 Just imagine how much better we'd be if we just landed 1 of Erhoff, Wisnewski or Suter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenrebellion 415 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 Just imagine how much better we'd be if we just landed 1 of Erhoff, Wisnewski or Suter Mainly because it would've kept us from signing one or more of Tootoo, Cleary or Sammy 1 rick zombo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robb himself 143 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 Hmm. You could be on to something. Agreed. I had never thought about Weiss on the wing and who better to play with than Pavel to get your game going? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 Agreed. I had never thought about Weiss on the wing and who better to play with than Pavel to get your game going? Ya I think it would be a great spot for him. Playing with arguably the best player in the world, as well he wouldn't have to be so focused on the defensive side of the game so it would really get his offense going 1 BadgerBob reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadgerBob 297 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 Agreed. I had never thought about Weiss on the wing and who better to play with than Pavel to get your game going? Seems to have worked last night for Pav's new winger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themcityblues 249 Report post Posted November 22, 2013 I watch the suggested lines from respectable members of this community and of course I know what lines Babs rolls. It's awkward that about 90% of the suggestions on the forums are far superior to Babs' lines. There's a lot of talented players on this roster, and not a lot of ways to make lines that scream "WTF?", yet Babs delivers time and time again. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Alfredsson Tatar-Weiss-Nyquist Abdelkader-Helm-Franzen Miller-Andersson-Bertuzzi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 I don't know why everyone thinks Tatar is so great, he has a lot to learn. No way Babcocks gives him top 6 minutes. Nyquist on the other hand is Datsyuk-like with his Hard work and commitment to Defense. If he can bring that every night then he deserves to be in the top 6 Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Alfredsson Nyquist-Weisse-Franzen Abdelkader-Helm-Tatar Cleary-Andersson-Bertuzzi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 I don't know why everyone thinks Tatar is so great, he has a lot to learn. No way Babcocks gives him top 6 minutes. Nyquist on the other hand is Datsyuk-like with his Hard work and commitment to Defense. If he can bring that every night then he deserves to be in the top 6 Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Alfredsson Nyquist-Weisse-Franzen Abdelkader-Helm-Tatar Cleary-Andersson-Bertuzzi Disagree with your assessment of Tatar, but love the lines you put together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danielsm 244 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 Seems to have worked last night for Pav's new winger Cleary? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
