haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 8, 2014 Uh oh looks like jimmy will be traded. No word on dats? Khan tweeted how all the players were tapping their sticks on the ice (I'm assuming making fun of him) when he finally stepped onto the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt198913 932 Report post Posted November 8, 2014 Troubling part of that update says Quincey is in but not sure whoes sitting. Really? Is Kindl going to sit? Not likely, Dekeyser? No chance, Kronwall or Ericsson? Probs not. That would leave Smith or Lashoff. Smith plays 20 a night has developed great chemistry with Dekeyser but I could see Babs sitting Smith. Would be outlandish considering the minutes he's chewing up right now, but not at all surprising to me anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted November 8, 2014 Troubling part of that update says Quincey is in but not sure whoes sitting. Really? Is Kindl going to sit? Not likely, Dekeyser? No chance, Kronwall or Ericsson? Probs not. That would leave Smith or Lashoff. Smith plays 20 a night has developed great chemistry with Dekeyser but I could see Babs sitting Smith. Would be outlandish considering the minutes he's chewing up right now, but not at all surprising to me anyways. I would be shocked if Lashoff wasn't benched. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted November 8, 2014 Its gotta be lash off. 1 matthewdanna reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted November 8, 2014 Troubling part of that update says Quincey is in but not sure whoes sitting. Really? Is Kindl going to sit? Not likely, Dekeyser? No chance, Kronwall or Ericsson? Probs not. That would leave Smith or Lashoff. Smith plays 20 a night has developed great chemistry with Dekeyser but I could see Babs sitting Smith. Would be outlandish considering the minutes he's chewing up right now, but not at all surprising to me anyways. I think it's obviously Lash. He's played solid, but Quincey is better. The rest have or are establishing more value to the team. 1 PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 8, 2014 I agree with jimmy, Jurco should not be sitting. Terrible management of this guy so far... I said before the season started and I still think he should be spending some more time in Grand Rapids but if he isn't down there he needs to be in the lineup in Detroit, not watching the games... 1 jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted November 9, 2014 Smith should not be benched. He's been solid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Why would Smith sit? Jurco is sitting a couple games. It's not t end of the world and he isn't the first young player to do it. I expect him to be back in the lineup soon. For those lamenting Helm and Abdelkader on scoring lines, was Bowman an idiot for playing McCarty, Brown, and Lapointe on scoring lines? Edited November 9, 2014 by DickieDunn 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Why would Smith sit? Jurco is sitting a couple games. It's not t end of the world and he isn't the first young player to do it. I expect him to be back in the lineup soon. For those lamenting Helm and Abdelkader on scoring lines, was Bowman an idiot for playing McCarty, Brown, and Lapointe on scoring lines? No doubt. I mean, it worked once before with a different coach, and different players, all of whom showed (over the course of their careers) that they were more offensively capable than the current coach and players in question. So why wouldn't it work this time? I can't imagine it's necessary to explain why just because something worked in the past under different circumstances doesn't mean it will necessarily work again. I don't think anybody would complain too much if your lines where Shanahan-Yzerman-Abby Federov-Helm-Hull/Robitaille/Kozlov Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot these forward lines would be supported by four Hall of Fame defensemen, and one (soon to be two) Hall of Fame goaltenders. I mean, those are totally comparable situations right? Edited November 9, 2014 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 9, 2014 No doubt. I mean, it worked once before with a different coach, and different players, all of whom showed (over the course of their careers) that they were more offensively capable than the current coach and players in question. So why wouldn't it work this time? I can't imagine it's necessary to explain why just because something worked in the past under different circumstances doesn't mean it will necessarily work again. I don't think anybody would complain too much if your lines where Shanahan-Yzerman-Abby Federov-Helm-Hull/Robitaille/Kozlov Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot these forward lines would be supported by four Hall of Fame defensemen, and one (soon to be two) Hall of Fame goaltenders. I mean, those are totally comparable situations right? If you're going to use that much sarcasm to ridicule the point someone was making, you should at least spell Fedorov correctly. 2 PavelValerievichDatsyuk and jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted November 9, 2014 If you're going to use that much sarcasm to ridicule the point someone was making, you should at least spell Fedorov correctly. Touche. 1-0 Herald. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 Lines I'd like when Datsyuk returns Nyquist-Zetterberg-Franzen (leave this line alone Babs) Abby-Datsyuk-Tatar Jurco-Sheahan-Nestrasil Cleary-Glendening-Miller maybe call up Pulkkinen in for Jurco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 Lines I'd like when Datsyuk returns Nyquist-Zetterberg-Franzen (leave this line alone Babs) Abby-Datsyuk-Tatar Jurco-Sheahan-Nestrasil Cleary-Glendening-Miller maybe call up Pulkkinen in for Jurco What I was thinking, minus nest maybe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Lines I'd like when Datsyuk returns Nyquist-Zetterberg-Franzen (leave this line alone Babs) Abby-Datsyuk-Tatar Jurco-Sheahan-Nestrasil Cleary-Glendening-Miller maybe call up Pulkkinen in for Jurco Helm? He definitely gets a spot over nestrasil Also, Weiss says he's ready so he's an option Edited November 10, 2014 by PavelValerievichDatsyuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 Why would Smith sit? Jurco is sitting a couple games. It's not t end of the world and he isn't the first young player to do it. I expect him to be back in the lineup soon. For those lamenting Helm and Abdelkader on scoring lines, was Bowman an idiot for playing McCarty, Brown, and Lapointe on scoring lines? No doubt. I mean, it worked once before with a different coach, and different players, all of whom showed (over the course of their careers) that they were more offensively capable than the current coach and players in question. So why wouldn't it work this time? I can't imagine it's necessary to explain why just because something worked in the past under different circumstances doesn't mean it will necessarily work again. I don't think anybody would complain too much if your lines where Shanahan-Yzerman-Abby Federov-Helm-Hull/Robitaille/Kozlov Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot these forward lines would be supported by four Hall of Fame defensemen, and one (soon to be two) Hall of Fame goaltenders. I mean, those are totally comparable situations right? The makeup is the same and no team has that amount of talent top to bottom any more. Even with that talent though. Bowman had a grinder on each scoring line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) The makeup is the same and no team has that amount of talent top to bottom any more. Even with that talent though. Bowman had a grinder on each scoring line. He had a couple of hall of famers on each scoring line too. You didn't need offense out of the grinder. We need the offense now. You could afford to use a spot on a grinder when your other top sixers where going to grab 30-50 goals a piece. We haven't had a thirty goal scorer in years. I'm not sure why you think it will work now, just because it worked then? Edited November 11, 2014 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 toplines I'd like to see: Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Hossa Hudler - Filppula - (ScoringWinger) Hopefully that Franzen guy turns out to be more than a 3rd liner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 Lines I'd like to see when team is fully healthy: Zetterberg-datsyuk-mantha Mule-Weiss-nyquist Tatar-sheahan-jurco Abby-helm-glenny Not too shaby if you ask me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 toplines I'd like to see: Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Hossa Hudler - Filppula - (ScoringWinger) Hopefully that Franzen guy turns out to be more than a 3rd liner I see you got the flux capacitor working again. 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 I see you got the flux capacitor working again. It works just fine, but Holland is too cheap to buy the plutonium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 I see you got the flux capacitor working again. It works just fine, but Holland is too cheap to buy the plutonium.He's not cheap, he just doesn't trust the Iranians.The makeup is the same and no team has that amount of talent top to bottom any more. Even with that talent though. Bowman had a grinder on each scoring line. He had a couple of hall of famers on each scoring line too. You didn't need offense out of the grinder. We need the offense now. You could afford to use a spot on a grinder when your other top sixers where going to grab 30-50 goals a piece. We haven't had a thirty goal scorer in years. I'm not sure why you think it will work now, just because it worked then?And no team has that many 30 goal players anymore. Stop acting like this is the same league. 2 scorers and a grinder works, and it allows a team with 6 scorers to roll 3 good lines instead of 2. 1 Dominator2005 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) He's not cheap, he just doesn't trust the Iranians. And no team has that many 30 goal players anymore. Stop acting like this is the same league. 2 scorers and a grinder works, and it allows a team with 6 scorers to roll 3 good lines instead of 2. That's great and all. But last year did we have a single 30 goal scorer?We have lots of 20-25 goal scorers. But we don't have any ELITE goal scorers. Maybe we do in nyquist but that's still unproven as if right now. Edited November 11, 2014 by DeGraa55 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 That's great and all. But last year did we have a single 30 goal scorer? We have lots of 20-25 goal scorers. But we don't have any ELITE goal scorers. Maybe we do in nyquist but that's still unproven as if right now. There's that word again. Guess it can apply to more than just goaltenders? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 He's not cheap, he just doesn't trust the Iranians. And no team has that many 30 goal players anymore. Stop acting like this is the same league. 2 scorers and a grinder works, and it allows a team with 6 scorers to roll 3 good lines instead of 2. Lol. I'm acting like its the same league huh? Aren't you the one justifying something Babs is doing by saying "Bowman did it" too? Lets find out. You originally said, "For those lamenting Helm and Abdelkader on scoring lines, was Bowman an idiot for playing McCarty, Brown, and Lapointe on scoring lines?", And now you're saying it's a different league. I agree. Which is why having offensively talentless grinders on your scoring lines is a bad idea. The very point I was making originally. Bowman could do it because he didn't just have scorers, he had hall of fame scorers. Babs can't do it, because his best scorer is Franzen (or Nyquist). It's not the same league, so justifying Babs' lines because "Bowman did it", is a worthless, intellectually flimsy argument. As you yourself seem to agree with when you say things like "stop acting like this is the same league". 1 Dominator2005 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 I'm pretty sure Dickie's whole point was that it worked for Bowman (in a less diluted league) and it would be even more applicable in today's league where there is less talent per team. A very valid point. 1 PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites