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#581 VM1138

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:09 AM

This makes me excited for the prospect of Weiss and Franzen's return. Finally, we can roll three, maybe four really good NHL lines. Haven't been able to do that in years.
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Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:32 PM

If I had a say these would be my lines for the playoffs.... (No salary cap)

Nyquist- zetterberg- franzen
Weiss- datsyuk- alfy
Tatar-sheahan-jurco
Abby-helm-glendening/eaves/miller/Anderson

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:42 PM

If I had a say these would be my lines for the playoffs.... (No salary cap)

Nyquist- zetterberg- franzen
Weiss- datsyuk- alfy
Tatar-sheahan-jurco
Abby-helm-glendening/eaves/miller/Anderson

That looks good. An alternate option with Z and Dats together might look like this. It all depends on how well Weiss returns. Ideally he can anchor a 2C spot. Matchup nightmares everywhere. Too bad our D is suspect.

 

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Franzen

Nyquist - Weiss - Alfredsson

Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco

Abby - Helm - Eaves

Miller/Andersson/Glendening


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 06:48 PM

That looks good. An alternate option with Z and Dats together might look like this. It all depends on how well Weiss returns. Ideally he can anchor a 2C spot. Matchup nightmares everywhere. Too bad our D is suspect.
 
Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Franzen
Nyquist - Weiss - Alfredsson
Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco
Abby - Helm - Eaves
Miller/Andersson/Glendening


Ya this is a very good lineup as well. I really thing that Stephen Weiss is this teams X factor. If he plays like we thought he was going to this forward corps would be lethal

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:15 PM

I like helm playing wing in the top 6. If he's not going to play center on on the third line then he is under utilized on the 4th line. That 2nd line is pretty iffy. If Weiss is still terrible after returning from injury then that whole lineup is blown. If were not going to be able to match other teams size in the top 6 then we have to blow by them with crazy speed
Nyquist-Zetterberg-Franzen
Helm-Datsyuk-Alfredsson
Jurco-Sheahan-Tatar
Abby-Glendening-Miller

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 10:25 AM

Am I the only one who thinks it might be a good idea to break up the kid line a little bit? Seems like when they are on ice late in games they always give up goals. I feel like we need someone on that line who is more defensively responsible and has more experience playing in the bigs. Maybe take Jurco off that line and throw Abby or Alfie in there. 

 

Nyquist-Legwand-Franzen

Tatar-Sheahan-Abby

Alfie-Andersson-Jurco

Miller-Glendening-Bert

 

Doesn't look too bad. 



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 10:37 AM

Am I the only one who thinks it might be a good idea to break up the kid line a little bit? Seems like when they are on ice late in games they always give up goals. I feel like we need someone on that line who is more defensively responsible and has more experience playing in the bigs. Maybe take Jurco off that line and throw Abby or Alfie in there. 

 

Nyquist-Legwand-Franzen

Tatar-Sheahan-Abby

Alfie-Andersson-Jurco

Miller-Glendening-Bert

 

Doesn't look too bad. 

 

Well if you noticed it was actually Franzen who gave the puck away twice in OT. The kid line was the only line going for a while last night. Their chemistry is undeniable. I would have preferred to see them start the OT. Tartar had a ridiculous pass picked off trying to make a dump in which caused the goal. Idk though I would like to see what Alfie would do with Franzen and Legwand, and maybe move Nyquist back with Andersson.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 11:13 AM

 

Am I the only one who thinks it might be a good idea to break up the kid line a little bit? Seems like when they are on ice late in games they always give up goals. I feel like we need someone on that line who is more defensively responsible and has more experience playing in the bigs. Maybe take Jurco off that line and throw Abby or Alfie in there. 

 

Nyquist-Legwand-Franzen

Tatar-Sheahan-Abby

Alfie-Andersson-Jurco

Miller-Glendening-Bert

 

Doesn't look too bad. 

 

Well if you noticed it was actually Franzen who gave the puck away twice in OT. The kid line was the only line going for a while last night. Their chemistry is undeniable. I would have preferred to see them start the OT. Tartar had a ridiculous pass picked off trying to make a dump in which caused the goal. Idk though I would like to see what Alfie would do with Franzen and Legwand, and maybe move Nyquist back with Andersson.

 

 

I know they have great chemistry, but they are lacking in their own zone. Not just last night but going back it seems like while they might always score the big goals, they give up their fair share of them, too. Regardless what we're doing now isn't working. At least not good enough to pull out a W. 



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 11:19 AM

I know they have great chemistry, but they are lacking in their own zone. Not just last night but going back it seems like while they might always score the big goals, they give up their fair share of them, too. Regardless what we're doing now isn't working. At least not good enough to pull out a W.



Maybe make the Abby/Jurco switch at the beginning of the third if we have a lead...?

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 11:55 AM

IF we make the playoffs and IF we became 100% healthy for Game 1, what would the lineup look like?

 

I would go with this:

 

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Franzen

 

Nyquist - Weiss - Alfredsson

 

Tatar - Legwand - Jurco

 

Sheahan - Helm - Abdelkader

 

 

What do you guys think?


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 12:00 PM

 

 

 

Well if you noticed it was actually Franzen who gave the puck away twice in OT. The kid line was the only line going for a while last night. Their chemistry is undeniable. I would have preferred to see them start the OT. Tartar had a ridiculous pass picked off trying to make a dump in which caused the goal. Idk though I would like to see what Alfie would do with Franzen and Legwand, and maybe move Nyquist back with Andersson.

 

 

and, if i recall correctly, shaehan had his back turned to the shooter on the GWG.. they are still rooks but their chemesty is worth the occational mistakes that come with growing pains. IMO you can't split them up.. especially now.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 01:03 PM

IF we make the playoffs and IF we became 100% healthy for Game 1, what would the lineup look like?
 
I would go with this:
 
Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Franzen
 
Nyquist - Weiss - Alfredsson
 
Tatar - Legwand - Jurco
 
Sheahan - Helm - Abdelkader
 
 
What do you guys think?


Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen
Tatar - Datsyuk - Alfredsson
Helm - Weiss - Sheahan
Miller - Legwand - Abdelkader

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 01:07 PM

Currently I would prefer these lines:

 

Franzen - Legwand - Alfie

Nyquist - Anderson - Abby

Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco

Miller - Glendening - Bert

 

I think that first line would mesh pretty well and on the 2nd line Nyquist could a) bring the creatitvity that Andersson and Abby lack and b) profit from playing weaker opposition than he does on the first line. I wouldn't break up the kid line because right now, even taking into account their mistakes, they are the bright spot and an overall plus.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 01:52 PM

Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen
Tatar - Datsyuk - Alfredsson
Helm - Weiss - Sheahan
Miller - Legwand - Abdelkader

I really like that as well... I would just prefer to keep Jurco in the line up.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 02:00 PM

Z Dats Franzen

 

Goose Weiss Alfie

 

Tatar Shehan Jurco

 

Miller Legs helm


Edited by sjr2012, 07 March 2014 - 02:04 PM.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 09:18 PM

Bump

 

I think the biggest questions are where do Weiss, Alfredsson, and Abdelkader slot in.

 

If Weiss holds up...

 

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Franzen

Nyquist - Weiss - Alfredsson ---------------------- Play as 2nd or 3rd line

Sheahan - Helm - Tatar ---------------------------  Play as 2nd or 3rd line. Sheahan & Tatar have chemistry

Miller - Glendening - Abdelkader ---------------- Great checking line

 

If he doesn't...

 

Tatar - Datsyuk - Franzen

Nyquist - Zetterberg - Alfredsson --------------- Nyquist & Zetterberg have chemistry

Sheahan - Helm - Abdelkader ------------------- Checking line that can score

Miller - Weiss - Cleary ----------------------------- IMO Cleary compliments Weiss better than Glendening

 

 

My only worry is that Alfredsson may be better suited on a third line at this point



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Posted 17 August 2014 - 09:28 PM

Putting Sheahan at wing when he is more durable and better than helm(IMO) would be a mistake. Helm should be the fourth line center...where he belongs.

In the second scenario I understand why you have Tatar and nyquist where they're at. But that's putting a lot of faith into guys who have only done it for a part of one year at the nhl level but we don't have anyone else to play the top 6.

Also no jurco makes me wanna cry but I know these are more realistic rosters except you forgot cleary in the first and there's no way Weiss is fourth line. He is either numer 2 center or hurt IMO. He will be given every opputunity(earned or not) because that's how the wings roll. Vets given too many opportunities young guys not enough.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 10:00 PM

1. Putting Sheahan at wing when he is more durable and better than helm(IMO) would be a mistake. Helm should be the fourth line center...where he belongs.

2. In the second scenario I understand why you have Tatar and nyquist where they're at. But that's putting a lot of faith into guys who have only done it for a part of one year at the nhl level but we don't have anyone else to play the top 6.

3. Also no jurco makes me wanna cry but I know these are more realistic rosters except you forgot cleary in the first and there's no way Weiss is fourth line. He is either numer 2 center or hurt IMO. He will be given every opputunity(earned or not) because that's how the wings roll. Vets given too many opportunities young guys not enough.

 

1. Helm is our fastest forward and probably the best defensively outside of Datsyuk and Zberg. To not play him at Center would be wasting his talents. From what I understand Sheahan is a natural LW. Helm is also regarded as one of the better 3rd line C's in the entire league. Playing him on the 4th, is again wasting his talents. I wouldn't play Datsyuk on the 2nd just because he was injured last year.

 

2. I'll do anything to keep Abdelkader out of the top 6. But yes, we have no one more else suited for a top 6 role than Nyquist or Tatar.

 

3. Cleary would be scratched in my first. Your bit about Weiss being #2 no matter what simply isn't the case though, and is not at all how the Wings roll. Babs demoted him to 4th line C very quickly last year when he wasn't performing. The same will happen again if he doesn't show up.


Edited by number9, 17 August 2014 - 10:03 PM.


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 10:55 PM

My preference:

Z - Pav - Jurco
Franzen - Weiss - Nyquist
Tatar - Sheahan - Alfie/Mantha
Miller - Helm - Abby

Kronwall - Smith
DeKeyser - E
KFQ - Marchenko/Ouellet
 
 
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Posted 17 August 2014 - 11:00 PM

 
1. Helm is our fastest forward and probably the best defensively outside of Datsyuk and Zberg. To not play him at Center would be wasting his talents. From what I understand Sheahan is a natural LW. Helm is also regarded as one of the better 3rd line C's in the entire league. Playing him on the 4th, is again wasting his talents. I wouldn't play Datsyuk on the 2nd just because he was injured last year.
 
2. I'll do anything to keep Abdelkader out of the top 6. But yes, we have no one more else suited for a top 6 role than Nyquist or Tatar.
 
3. Cleary would be scratched in my first. Your bit about Weiss being #2 no matter what simply isn't the case though, and is not at all how the Wings roll. Babs demoted him to 4th line C very quickly last year when he wasn't performing. The same will happen again if he doesn't show up.

I think that had to do more with him being injured though then just being bad. I could be wrong but IF he is healthy I think he is number 2 no matter what.

I also think Abby would be fine in the top 6. He haut needs to go to homer school. Learn how to deflect and handle the luck better in front of net.


And me wanting helm on the fourth isn't so much with his ability cause I agree he is a great defensive center and has lot so speed. It's more so of him being injury prone. If he can play 8 mins a night or whatever the fourth line gets maybe he can stay healthier by playing less.

Edited by DeGraa55, 17 August 2014 - 11:04 PM.






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