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'Detroit's Dark Horse Potential'

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#21 stillwater


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:39 PM

Three-legged horses don't win races. They need to solidify a hold on a playoff spot first.

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:45 PM

Three-legged horses don't win races.


What about centaurs with three arms who bear a striking resemblance to Kyle Quincey?



"If I were to wish for anything, I should not wish for wealth and power, but for the passionate sense of the potential, for the eye which, ever young and ardent, sees the possible. Pleasure disappoints, possibility never. And what wine is so sparkling, what so fragrant, what so intoxicating, as possibility!" - Kierkegaard

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 06:47 PM


The problem is that Kronner, E and DD are NOT fine. It's not like those guys are reliable night in, night out and the other 3 are costing us. Kronwall has gone through a couple weeks of terrible play recently, E was just about the worst defender against Florida and apart from his first game back, has been shaky since his injury, and DD has shown enough times that he's still a rookie since coming back too. What's more Quincey has actually been pretty good over a few games. 

Every time I see JoesufP or Dabura bemoan the lack of a top defender after a goal against in a GDT, I wonder "how is this magical defender that we can't afford going to be able to be on the ice at the right time to fill in for whichever of our 6 defenders is going to decide to turd it up on any given night?"

They are fine. All defensemen make mistakes. All defensemen get scored on. All defensemen have occasional bad games.


Statistically, our top 3 measure up fairly well compared to the top 3 on the better defensive teams (.9 GA/G on average for the top 3 in average ice time from LA, StL, Bos, and Pit vs ours at .96 GA/G). The 4 and 5 spots, Quincey and Smith, are a significantly bigger difference (.66 vs our .97). Our bottom could use some help too (.53 vs .66).


Adding a top defenseman, especially if it was someone good enough to move Kronwall to the second unit, would certainly help tremendously. Pushing Q to the 3rd pair, with less exposure to top forwards, probably helps that unit as well.


Of course, needing a top defender (especially since we need a guy who's good at both ends) doesn't mean we have the ability to acquire one, or fit one under the cap. But that doesn't mean we wouldn't be very good if we somehow did.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:20 PM

So we have been reduced to "darkhorse" status now...... Great..................

#25 GoalieManPat


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 10:00 AM

Darkhorse teams usually have a strong defense and get lucky with everyone staying healthy. Those are two things this team does not have right now.

#26 ogreslayer



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 10:06 AM

So we have been reduced to "darkhorse" status now...... Great..................


Would "deadhorse" waiting already for the glue factory that is the draft lottery be better?  The boys have 24 games after the break to play their way in & I for one like their chances.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 06:13 PM

They absolutely have potential. This is why it's so frustrating to see Holland make some of the moves he does these days. Trim some forward fat from the middle-tier that doesn't play or contribute (and who generally get outplayed by the so-called lower-tier guys) and sign some help on defense. There's a lot of positives about this team and anytime you have Dats and Z, you've got a fighting chance to make something happen. We've really got to stop squandering the remaining years we have with Dats and Z leading this team.


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