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#201 BottleOfSmoke

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:40 PM

Not so sure about that. Not knocking Kron at all, but he benefited greatly by playing with #5. Honestly, he's looking solid, but a 2 or 3 best. Not overly impressive at all.  If there is one coming, it may be Danny D!


Name 29 D men better than Kronwall. He's a number one. He may not be Lidstrom, but anyone who thinks he's not a "#1" gets an eyeroll from me.

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:41 PM

When do we get our injured defensemen back agai.......................................oh that's right this is the best we've got.

 

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:41 PM

We need some real defenders.  Too many mindless plugs back there.  

We're much better back there when Ericsson isn't on the bottle.  He's been a lug nut as of late.


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:41 PM

 
which means theyll lose


I think were better off when it's a battle all game but we have outplayed them. When we have a lead for the whole game we seem to sleep walk in the third

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:42 PM

Jimmy needed to have that save. Wings have dominated the game

 

I hope Jimmy doesn't see one minute of icetime in the Olympics.  


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:42 PM

Kronwall 8th in the league in points for Dmen.  Only 2 have a better +/- and that's Keith and Pietrangelo.  If anyone thinks Kronwall isn't a #1 Dman, especially playing with a lower quality blue line than we're used to, is crazy.  And as far as points go, he's only 3 behind Subban for 5th overall.

 

I couldn't agree more than Kronner is a #1, and those are some great points to back it up. Those who think he's not are just used to seeing Lids ridiculously good D back there and anything less isn't seen by them as a #1 on this team.



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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:42 PM

Not sure why we are complaining about our defenders after a complete fluke goal. 



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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:43 PM

Ya Kronwall is a real #1 he has periods where he's pretty bad though. He absolutely has no support. The real issue is that Ericsson is not a true #2

#209 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:43 PM

 

Not to mention, he is on a great contract for us.

Yup.  How many above him on that list make less than 5 mil per?  Dude's a massive bargain.  4.75 mil til 2018-19.  He's such a great guy, his salary allows us to pursue a 1B Dman.


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:43 PM

Not so sure about that. Not knocking Kron at all, but he benefited greatly by playing with #5. Honestly, he's looking solid, but a 2 or 3 best. Not overly impressive at all.  If there is one coming, it may be Danny D!

Question is what do you expect from a No. 1 D-Man that Kronwall hasn't ? 


Edited by derblaueClaus, 08 February 2014 - 08:45 PM.

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:43 PM

Jimmy's clutch is broke - keeps revving in neutral - f's sake


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:43 PM

Name 29 D men better than Kronwall. He's a number one. He may not be Lidstrom, but anyone who thinks he's not a "#1" gets an eyeroll from me.

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:45 PM

Anybody else wonder when we realize that the young guns are doing better than the current group. Maybe we should bring up some young defenseman to take over?


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:45 PM

 
I hope Jimmy doesn't see one minute of icetime in the Olympics.  


He's been solid lately. It wouldn't be Jimmy if he didn't give up an untimely goal though. Frustrating but he made some nice saves tonight. That second goal was a dud though

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:45 PM

Not so sure about that. Not knocking Kron at all, but he benefited greatly by playing with #5. Honestly, he's looking solid, but a 2 or 3 best. Not overly impressive at all.  If there is one coming, it may be Danny D!

 

There are generational players like Lidstrom, Orr, Shore, and Harvey.

 

Then there are elite guys like Pronger, Chara, Konstantinov, and Suter.  

 

Then there are #1 guys.  They're not elite/top 5 or 6 in the league guys, but they're better than 90% of the other defensemen in the league.  Kronwall falls into this group.

 

Name 25 defensemen who are better than Kronwall.  Not about the same, or "maybe you can make an argument about it," clearly better.  If you can do it I will change my sig to whatever you want for a month.


Edited by DickieDunn, 08 February 2014 - 08:47 PM.

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#216 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:46 PM

 

I couldn't agree more than Kronner is a #1, and those are some great points to back it up. Those who think he's not are just used to seeing Lids ridiculously good D back there and anything less isn't seen by them as a #1 on this team.

The bar was raised so high that only Bobby Orr could reach it.  And out of the guys that are above Kronwall on that list, the only guys I'd take above him as our #1 guy are Pietrangelo or maybe Keith.  And to add to that, Byfuglien is now a forward, so his stats could be elsewhere making Kronner #7 in points at D.


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:46 PM

Those saying Kronwall isn't a number one dman aren't comparing him to other dmen, they are condemning him for not being Nick Lidstrom. Nobody, with the possible exception of Bobby Orr, can stand up to that standard.
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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:48 PM

Not sure why we are complaining about our defenders after a complete fluke goal. 


Fluke or not our defense allows opponents to crash our net with the puck WAY too easily.

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:48 PM

Jimmy's clutch is broke - keeps revving in neutral - f's sake

As it's always been.



#220 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:49 PM

Not so sure about that. Not knocking Kron at all, but he benefited greatly by playing with #5. Honestly, he's looking solid, but a 2 or 3 best. Not overly impressive at all.  If there is one coming, it may be Danny D!

We all love Danny D, but he's been a bit off since his injury as well.  Kronwall back there is one of the main reasons we're hanging on to a playoff spot along with Z's masterful leadership.  He's a big calming influence on guys like DD and Smith.  If you watch every game, it's easy too see.


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