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Official 2014 Olympic Hockey Thread (Admin warning #316)

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Swiss upset the Czechs 1-0. Hiller was good, the Swiss play a suffocating NJ devils style hockey on the big ice, very effective. Wonder if Hudler or Vrbata could've added some pop for the Czechs? Still a stupid decision leaving those 2 home.

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Thanks, I'd guessed that was what was up. Good on Disco Dan.

Not a fan of the no-goal. Cheapened the whole thing for me a bit, even if it was the right call. I dunno if it can be pinned on one of the refs being American, though. (Then again...)

Whose responsibility is it to check if the net is on its moorings? Head refs or the linesmen?

The refs were a Swede and an American, the linesmen were both from Canada.

From replays it looks like Quick was a bit more forceful then necessary, when sliding along the goal line and kicking out the left post. Probably not intentional, but with a US ref, it gives all sorts of ammo to the conspiracy minded among us. :)

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Whose responsibility is it to check if the net is on its moorings? Head refs or the linesmen?

The refs were a Swede and an American, the linesmen were both from Canada.

From replays it looks like Quick was a bit more forceful then necessary, when sliding along the goal line and kicking out the left post. Probably not intentional, but with a US ref, it gives all sorts of ammo to the conspiracy minded among us. :)

I could see where there could be conspiracy complaints, but IMHO there is no controversy. If the net is off then it's no goal the refs followed the rules and disallowed it. Really the only mistake the officials made was not seeing that the net was off in the first place.

But what's a great game without a little controversy, huh? :)

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It's hard for me to say how I'd feel if I were a Russian fan in this situation. I mean, I imagine I'd be pretty upset because my team was so close to winning a very high profile game. But then again, having been a Red Wings fan for my entire life I feel like having important goals waved off is sort of "old hat". So in the final analysis...

Tough break Ruskies!

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I could see where there could be conspiracy complaints, but IMHO there is no controversy. If the net is off then it's no goal the refs followed the rules and disallowed it. Really the only mistake the officials made was not seeing that the net was off in the first place.

But what's a great game without a little controversy, huh? :)

True, although i could wish the refs called Quick for delay of game for the push on post.

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True, although i could wish the refs called Quick for delay of game for the push on post.

I don't think you can call delay of game there, it's not like Quick knocked the net completely off, he went to make a save and the net barely got dislodged.

On a side note I never liked Radulov, but today I think all USA fans owe him a debt of gratitude. So if I'm permitted on behalf of all USA fans I would like to say: Thanks Sasha we couldn't have done it without you.

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Blues vs Bruins is something I can get behind, and cheer on the Blues...I've been to St.Louis a handful of times; really nice folks, and great hockey fans (and unlike Chicago you can wear your Red Wings gear, and not be threatened)...If there's a franchise out there along with a fan base that deserves to have a shot at winning the Cup - I'm thinking the Blues would be at, or near the top of that list.

Have to disagree about Blues fans.

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot to like about the team, and Hitch is doing a great job. That said, I had the misfortune of actually living in St. Louis for several years, and the "core" Blues fans (passionate, knowledgeable, respectful of other teams) are a distinct minority. You're more likely to encounter the idiots who probably couldn't care less if the Blues ever won a Cup -- as long as the other team (preferably the Wings) leaves the ice on stretchers, they're happy. Plus, when they're not simply screaming for blood, they're constantly whining about how national media and fans of other teams aren't giving the Blues enough attention and "respect," -- despite the obvious fact (well, obvious to the rest of the world, anyway) that the team has never accomplished a freaking thing in its 45-year history.

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Whose responsibility is it to check if the net is on its moorings? Head refs or the linesmen?

The refs were a Swede and an American, the linesmen were both from Canada.

From replays it looks like Quick was a bit more forceful then necessary, when sliding along the goal line and kicking out the left post. Probably not intentional, but with a US ref, it gives all sorts of ammo to the conspiracy minded among us. :)

I hear ya. I guess my thinking - if we want to go the conspiracy route - is that we don't even necessarily need the ref(s) to be biased for the whole thing to be suspicious. It could just be that Quick is an evil genius. (If I'm a goalie in the Olympics, I'd quite like playing with an ever-so-slightly dislodged net. It'd be a wonderful safety cushion; even if the opposition scores, they don't score. And they're not going to make you play the past minute or two or however much time has transpired all over again. Sweet, right? JUST SAYIN'. ;))

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Good to beat Russia, but why is it being hailed as the biggest win for USA since 1980? Team USA is ridiculously stacked, better than Russia on paper, and it's just a round robin game. What's so big about It?

They beat the Evil Russians? IDK, if you don't know much about hockey you might buy that hype if you compare it to the Miracle on Ice.

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Good to beat Russia, but why is it being hailed as the biggest win for USA since 1980? Team USA is ridiculously stacked, better than Russia on paper, and it's just a round robin game. What's so big about It?

While the hype is over blown, the loss to the USA means a whole lot in Russia. They not only lost but lost to their biggest rivals in everything on home ice in the Olympics with their President in the building. Plus tell guys like Kesler and Mcdonagh that this game didn't mean anything, both of those guys had huge shot blocks off of big shots from Ovechkin and Kovalchuk. It's definately not the miracle on ice but this game meant a heck of a lot to both teams. Also for some fans, like myself, that used to live in the Soviet Union and have no love loss for Russia this game gave me a huge smile.

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While the hype is over blown, the loss to the USA means a whole lot in Russia. They not only lost but lost to their biggest rivals in everything on home ice in the Olympics with their President in the building. Plus tell guys like Kesler and Mcdonagh that this game didn't mean anything, both of those guys had huge shot blocks off of big shots from Ovechkin and Kovalchuk. It's definately not the miracle on ice but this game meant a heck of a lot to both teams. Also for some fans, like myself, that used to live in the Soviet Union and have no love loss for Russia this game gave me a huge smile.

USA is Russia's biggest rival in many things, but not when it comes to Hockey.

I'm pretty sure they hate Canada far more than the US.

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1. Nice win. A game we were favored in BTW.

2. Anything less than a silver for the USA is a major upset. We are at worst the second best hockey team/country in the world.

3. While outside listening to the radio today on lunch, some idiot was on the radio chatting with Bob(?) Ryan-the sports writer from Boston. He was talking about the development of hockey in the USA over the last 50 years. he was talking about how when he was in college-1964-68, there was only 1 US born hockey player in the NHL. Now that was back in the days of 6 teams and 150 total players, but still major growth.

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