Official 2014 Olympic Hockey Thread (Admin warning #316)

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

Of course, we won't! That's why they play the games and why we watch.

You implied it when you said, "We'll see who the best teams are once being eliminated is a possible outcome." As if, with the absence of elimination as an outcome, the game doesn't matter.

I also didn't mean to single you out, you were just one of the most recent posts, there are a lot of posts I've wanted to reply to but by the time I get to seeing the recorded games are buried 5-10 pages back.

A majority of Canadians have discredited the USA though.

Agreed.

[rrasco 1,312]

No, I implied that teams take it to another level when being eliminated is possible. Which is the absolute truth.

A majority of Americans have been discrediting Canadians as well. That is what is making everyone arguing so silly lol

Maybe so, but a majority of Americans (along with the rest of the world) are stupid so, meh.

Which reminds me this: “Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!” ~George Carlin

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

I have no idea what kind of team Canada is? It's the same kind of team as the USA is, a bunch of All Star NHL players...putting a Canadian sweater on Ryan Getzlaf doesn't make him any different of a player when he has a Ducks sweater on. Same can be said for Cam Fowler fort the USA.

You gave up two goals all tourney thus far, true, but you barely beat Norway and Finland. We gave up 2 goals to Russia, arguably the 3rd best team in the Olympics. You gave up 2 goals total to Finland and Norway (snicker) all while scoring 11, 6 of which came against Austria (snicker snicker.) We only gave up 4 total and scored, ready? 15 all against NHL laden teams with NHL goaltenders...

This is all meaningless, but it was one of your fellow Canadian fans who first posted that the reason Canada has struggled is that they have played higher ranked teams...which its obvious that that excuse has been blown out of the water.

Team USA and Team Canada are basically the same team. So to say I don't know what kind of team Canada is, is just wrong on all aspects. Team USA just seems to be gelling better and that could be the factor that makes the difference this year.

As I said, stick to team USA.

Thanks.

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

A majority of Canadians have discredited the USA though.

I don't think that's true at all. Do people say Canada or Sweden or Russia are maybe better? Sure, but that's not discrediting the US. They're all great teams.

Everyone I have discussions with think US has a hell of a team with some of the best goaltending in the tournament. Top 3 for sure. The majority just don't think they're the best team.

*All this "majority" talk is kind of silly though because what I encounter in my day-to-day life is obviously different than someone else. It's all very subjective.

Edited February 17, 2014 by Son of a Wing

[marcaractac 3,963]

Team USA just seems to be gelling better and that could be the factor that makes the difference this year.

It was the exact same way in 2010*

*statement does not imply that I think the end result will be the same as 2010

Edited February 17, 2014 by marcaractac

[LeftWinger 4,959]

I've watched every game that Russia, Canada, Sweden and USA has played...Canada struggled against Norway early and late in that game and was nowhere near what was to expected of Team Canada v. Team Norway... but thanks for trying to discredit...

Let me re-state the fan position. Canadian fans aren't the worst, but was just saying that during the Olympics they are worse than Av's fans... I am sure the same can be said of the USA fans on the opposite side of the coin too!

manx...so what you are saying is I have no idea what kind of team Canada is because when a Canadian puts the sweater on they have more pride that a USA player? Please, instead of telling me I have no idea, enlighten me so I do have an idea what kind of player a Canadian player is compared to an American player...because other than where they were born, I don't see much of a difference between a team full of American's NHL players and a team full of Canadian NHL players... They are all part of the top 5% of hockey players in the world, so please enlighten us American's on what the difference is...

Edited February 17, 2014 by LeftWinger

[Z Winged Dangler 2,082]

Cheers to that! But, in no possible scenario would I ever wish Canada a win...I compare that to routing against Colorado back in the day to lose every chance they get...especially if it were an upset!

(that being said, I am sure there are plenty of Canadian fans who feel the same about the USA) Nothing wrong with either fan, that is just country pride!

BTW, I find it very hard to root for the players on team USA because of who they are and what they mean to me in the NHL, but I so feel the need to root for the USA. That also being said, if you go back and look, I did pick Russia to beat the USA in the Gold Round.

That's more being cynical than patriotic. Wishing for the worst possible for a country instead of just cheering for your own.... But to each their own I guess.

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

I've watched every game that Russia, Canada, Sweden and USA has played...Canada struggled against Norway early and late in that game and was nowhere near what was to expected of Team Canada v. Team Norway... but thanks for trying to discredit...

Let me re-state the fan position. Canadian fans aren't the worst, but was just saying that during the Olympics they are worse than Av's fans... I am sure the same can be said of the USA fans on the opposite side of the coin too!

manx...so what you are saying is I have no idea what kind of team Canada is because when a Canadian puts the sweater on they have more pride that a USA player? Please, instead of telling me I have no idea, enlighten me so I do have an idea what kind of player a Canadian player is compared to an American player...because other than where they were born, I don't see much of a difference between a team full of American's NHL players and a team full of Canadian NHL players... They are all part of the top 5% of hockey players in the world, so please enlighten us American's on what the difference is...

I don't determine the way you interrupt things, if that's what you believe then that is ok.

[marcaractac 3,963]

I sure hope Canada scores 3 more goals in this Women's game. We can't possibly beat the US if we only won 3-1 where they won 6-1!

[Z Winged Dangler 2,082]

I've watched every game that Russia, Canada, Sweden and USA has played...Canada struggled against Norway early and late in that game and was nowhere near what was to expected of Team Canada v. Team Norway... but thanks for trying to discredit...

Let me re-state the fan position. Canadian fans aren't the worst, but was just saying that during the Olympics they are worse than Av's fans... I am sure the same can be said of the USA fans on the opposite side of the coin too!

manx...so what you are saying is I have no idea what kind of team Canada is because when a Canadian puts the sweater on they have more pride that a USA player? Please, instead of telling me I have no idea, enlighten me so I do have an idea what kind of player a Canadian player is compared to an American player...because other than where they were born, I don't see much of a difference between a team full of American's NHL players and a team full of Canadian NHL players... They are all part of the top 5% of hockey players in the world, so please enlighten us American's on what the difference is...

When was that ever implied? He already told you that Canada's O hasn't been working the greatest, but our D and G have been great aside from 2 deflection goals. Pretty simple I'd say. You clearly have tons of pride, as do your American players. No one EVER questioned that once.

[hillbillywingsfan 792]

I don't even think right now as it stands Canada is in the top 3 teams. US,Swe and rus in no particular order.And that's only because those teams seem to be gelling a bet better right now. Not to say Canada wont turn it on because they do have the talent to win it all but don't sell any of the other teams I mentioned short.

And how is it if an American states that team Canada should be playing a lot better when they are not ridiculous? With all the hype team Canada has gotten even before the Olympics started you would of thought that they already won the gold. And you can say that isn't true all you want but it is. And if anyone is taking what some people on the HF boards has stated for fact then I have nothing more to say. HF boards are well known for idiocy and nothing against anyone on here that posts there. But it's either 1 extreme or the other it seems on that site.

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

I sure hope Canada scores 3 more goals in this Women's game. We can't possibly beat the US if we only won 3-1 where they won 6-1!

I nominate this for post of the thread. +1

[LeftWinger 4,959]

trying to figure out what you mean...you say I don't know what kind of team Canada is then tell us all, please. Instead of just saying I don't know and leaving it at that...that would be no different than coming in and saying 'Those rankings are crap...' You add nothing to this conversation by just saying "you don't know anything about Team Canada..." but since you can't seem to explain it, I will just keep my same opinion then and not wonder if I am missing something...

[rrasco 1,312]

I don't think that's true at all. Do people say Canada or Sweden or Russia are maybe better? Sure, but that's not discrediting the US. They're all great teams.

If you go back to the point about 'a majority' of people believing something, it is comparable to 'a majority of Americans think it will be no problem to beat Team Canada'. No more, no less.

[hillbillywingsfan 792]

I sure hope Canada scores 3 more goals in this Women's game. We can't possibly beat the US if we only won 3-1 where they won 6-1!

And some are wondering why this thread spins off of the rails. Back handed posts like these have no place.

The Canadian women beat the US in that one fight....US has no chance in beating the Canadians if they can't even fight.

Edited February 17, 2014 by hillbillywingsfan

[Z Winged Dangler 2,082]

I don't even think right now as it stands Canada is in the top 3 teams. US,Swe and rus in no particular order.And that's only because those teams seem to be gelling a bet better right now. Not to say Canada wont turn it on because they do have the talent to win it all but don't sell any of the other teams I mentioned short.

And how is it if an American states that team Canada should be playing a lot better when they are not ridiculous? With all the hype team Canada has gotten even before the Olympics started you would of thought that they already won the gold. And you can say that isn't true all you want but it is. And if anyone is taking what some people on the HF boards has stated for fact then I have nothing more to say. HF boards are well known for idiocy and nothing against anyone on here that posts there. But it's either 1 extreme or the other it seems on that site.

I will argue this post with a simple name drop. Drew motherf***in' Doughty! Boom!!!!

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

I don't even think right now as it stands Canada is in the top 3 teams. US,Swe and rus in no particular order.And that's only because those teams seem to be gelling a bet better right now. Not to say Canada wont turn it on because they do have the talent to win it all but don't sell any of the other teams I mentioned short.

And how is it if an American states that team Canada should be playing a lot better when they are not ridiculous? With all the hype team Canada has gotten even before the Olympics started you would of thought that they already won the gold. And you can say that isn't true all you want but it is. And if anyone is taking what some people on the HF boards has stated for fact then I have nothing more to say. HF boards are well known for idiocy and nothing against anyone on here that posts there. But it's either 1 extreme or the other it seems on that site.

Knowing the general tone of this thread that's just a blatant troll attempt. lol

[Z Winged Dangler 2,082]

And some are wondering why this thread spins off of the rails. Back handed posts like these have no place.

They're coming from both sides of the border.

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

And some are wondering why this thread spins off of the rails. Back handed posts like these have no place.

The Canadian women beat the US in that one fight....US has no chance in beating the Canadians if they can't even fight.

This after your post?? Wow. lol

[LeftWinger 4,959]

if USA women's hockey won 6-1 against Sweden then Canada should beat the Swiss by at least 9 goals,...if we are to believe the hype of Canadian hockey lore...I guess, because as American's we don't get what it means to be a Canadian hockey player or know anything about teams in Canada...why is Canada even playing RR games and semi finals? They should get an automatic bid to the Gold medal game and wait for a worthy opponent to meet them, and if said opponent isn't worthy enough, Canada should be given the Gold...heck, may as well have two Canadian teams in the Olympics and just let them play for the Gold...no one else is good enough or understands Canadian hockey...

edit: *disclaimer* This post is what most Canadian fans seem to see when USA fans try talk about hockey and what most USA hockey fans see when Canadian fans try to tells us about Hockey... it is in no way my opinion... (not all the time anyway! )

Edited February 17, 2014 by LeftWinger

[hillbillywingsfan 792]

This after your post?? Wow. lol

So what? I can;t state how I see things? I was trying to say anything but how I see it. I'm sorry im not a US slappy that thinks all things Canada is better in hockey. In that same post I said Canada has the talent to win it all..they just aren't gelling good yet....stop trying to make things that aren't there.

[rrasco 1,312]

Knowing the general tone of this thread that's just a blatant troll attempt. lol

To be fair, he started that with 'I think'. He's allowed to think whatever he wants, at least in this country.

Although, technically Canada is top 3, right behind Sweden and USA.

I will argue this post with a simple name drop. Drew motherf***in' Doughty! Boom!!!!

I see your Doughty and raise you a Kessil

[hillbillywingsfan 792]

Knowing the general tone of this thread that's just a blatant troll attempt. lol

you think it's one because I'm an american that is rooting for the US and not saying that canada looks like they are the greatest team playing right now. I'm sorry but they don't. If they were I would be more than happy to say it.

[Z Winged Dangler 2,082]

I have no idea what kind of team Canada is? It's the same kind of team as the USA is, a bunch of All Star NHL players...putting a Canadian sweater on Ryan Getzlaf doesn't make him any different of a player when he has a Ducks sweater on. Same can be said for Cam Fowler fort the USA.

You gave up two goals all tourney thus far, true, but you barely beat Norway and Finland. We gave up 2 goals to Russia, arguably the 3rd best team in the Olympics. You gave up 2 goals total to Finland and Norway (snicker) all while scoring 11, 6 of which came against Austria (snicker snicker.) We only gave up 4 total and scored, ready? 15 all against NHL laden teams with NHL goaltenders...

This is all meaningless, but it was one of your fellow Canadian fans who first posted that the reason Canada has struggled is that they have played higher ranked teams...which its obvious that that excuse has been blown out of the water.

Team USA and Team Canada are basically the same team. So to say I don't know what kind of team Canada is, is just wrong on all aspects. Team USA just seems to be gelling better and that could be the factor that makes the difference this year.

So 4 more goals for than Canada, and 2 more against. So your guys offence has been working better and our D has been working better. And 6 of our goals are from our D. We all know full well our F's have been lame offensively, but it's only a matter of time before the smelling salts kick in. All it takes is a little patience for the other team to make a mistake and strike. D isn't our worry, so there's a massive bonus.

To answer your question to darkmanx, that is our Canadian team in a nutshell. A defensive juggernaut that is ready to explode offence.

[marcaractac 3,963]

And some are wondering why this thread spins off of the rails. Back handed posts like these have no place.

The Canadian women beat the US in that one fight....US has no chance in beating the Canadians if they can't even fight.

You realize it was just a joke, right? Calm down.