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#61 Playmaker

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 06:42 AM

 

Z is a true warrior, has national pride and so he played through it. I don't care that much about the NHL season, he had the chance to captain his country at the olympics that's a once in a lifetime moment for players.

 

If I had to take something away from the Z or Pasha situation, it would be this: I have even more respect for them now, they are putting their teammates, countries over themselves and basically are playing through everything. We are so lucky, to have these two guys and I'm incredible proud to have such great player in a winged wheel.

 

There are more important things in life than hanging on to a very impressive playoff streak. If I had to choose between both of them captaining their respective teams OR making the playoffs I'd go with the first choice because they've given so much to this franchise, time to give them something back.

 

Also I don't care what the doctors are seeing both are superb trained athletes we are going to see them again in the olympics book it :)

Then why are you here?  I DO care about the NHL season and the Red Wings.  I don't give a flying f*** about the Olympics.  I want the players who are being paid to play here to have their loyalties to the Red Wings.  "We" don't owe them anything. Zetterberg has the life and career he has because of the Red Wings, not because of Team Sweden.   Let's hope this puts an end to this ridiculous Olympics BS once and for all.


The big worry, Wings-wise, is that Franzen is out indefinitely, Datsyuk is playing hurt (wouldn't be playing if it weren't Sochi), and Zetterberg - who we knew was already playing hurt - is now seemingly out indefinitely. That's rough.

Right, and all three are likely missing time directly due to the Olympics.  All 3 played hurt when they shouldn't have, to try and be ready for Sochi.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 06:47 AM

Here's hoping Russia don't make it past the group stage…….


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 06:52 AM

The big worry, Wings-wise, is that Franzen is out indefinitely, Datsyuk is playing hurt (wouldn't be playing if it weren't Sochi), and Zetterberg - who we knew was already playing hurt - is now seemingly out indefinitely. That's rough.

Stephen Weiss will make or break this team's playoff chances. We're going to be without Z a while, hopefully Pav can play but Weiss has to be good.

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 06:59 AM

Then why are you here?  I DO care about the NHL season and the Red Wings.  I don't give a flying f*** about the Olympics.  I want the players who are being paid to play here to have their loyalties to the Red Wings.  "We" don't owe them anything. Zetterberg has the life and career he has because of the Red Wings, not because of Team Sweden.   Let's hope this puts an end to this ridiculous Olympics BS once and for all.

Right, and all three are likely missing time directly due to the Olympics.  All 3 played hurt when they shouldn't have, to try and be ready for Sochi.


I think Johan played in order to try and give z some rest, not for the Olympics

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 08:29 AM

If Franzen, Datsyuk and Zetterberg are out for even half the remaining NHL games, I begin to doubt our ability to make playoffs... We may put together a decent underdog streak, but you just don't win with your top three scorers out.
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Posted 14 February 2014 - 08:41 AM

If Franzen, Datsyuk and Zetterberg are out for even half the remaining NHL games, I begin to doubt our ability to make playoffs... We may put together a decent underdog streak, but you just don't win with your top three scorers out.

 

Agreed. I think that would be it. But, lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet...



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 08:48 AM

He might be done. With this kind of herniated disc, even with surgery, he won't be the same. Might be forced to hang em up.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 08:58 AM

Then why are you here?  I DO care about the NHL season and the Red Wings.  I don't give a flying f*** about the Olympics.  I want the players who are being paid to play here to have their loyalties to the Red Wings.  "We" don't owe them anything. Zetterberg has the life and career he has because of the Red Wings, not because of Team Sweden.   Let's hope this puts an end to this ridiculous Olympics BS once and for all.


Right, and all three are likely missing time directly due to the Olympics.  All 3 played hurt when they shouldn't have, to try and be ready for Sochi.

 

Simply not true.  Franzen was concussed before the Olympics, and would still be out concussed in an NHL only no-Olympics season.  He didn't suffer another concussion when he came back for 1 game, he simply wasn't recovered from his initial concussion (only 3 days symptom free when the protocol is meant to be minimum 7).  He didn't rush back for the Olympics, he rushed back because we had no centers.

 

Datsyuk was injured before the Olympics and would still be injured without the Olympics.  He may be guilty of delaying surgery so as not to miss Sochi, but we won't know that for another 2 weeks.

 

Zetterberg has been plagued with his bad back for 3 months now.  He hasn't practised in forever.  He's clearly been playing through the pain for Detroit. He had it before the Olympics, and he would have had it without an Olympics.  MANY on here have speculated that it was only a matter of time before his back went again.  Unlucky for us it went after the Czech game.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 09:06 AM

 

Simply not true.  Franzen was concussed before the Olympics, and would still be out concussed in an NHL only no-Olympics season.  He didn't suffer another concussion when he came back for 1 game, he simply wasn't recovered from his initial concussion (only 3 days symptom free when the protocol is meant to be minimum 7).  He didn't rush back for the Olympics, he rushed back because we had no centers.

 

Datsyuk was injured before the Olympics and would still be injured without the Olympics.  He may be guilty of delaying surgery so as not to miss Sochi, but we won't know that for another 2 weeks.

 

Zetterberg has been plagued with his bad back for 3 months now.  He hasn't practised in forever.  He's clearly been playing through the pain for Detroit. He had it before the Olympics, and he would have had it without an Olympics.  MANY on here have speculated that it was only a matter of time before his back went again.  Unlucky for us it went after the Czech game.

All speculation on your part as well.   Nothing factual to back it up.  Datsyuk would not be playing with the Red Wings right now.  He's still be out with the injury.  It was clear to anyone who saw him play that he's not even close to being recovered.  He would still be sitting out if the season was ongoing, as well he should be.  Same with Zetterberg.  They were playing so they could go to the Olympics, not to help the Red Wings.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 10:07 AM

I know folks have mentioned it, but here's the official NHL link ruling him out for the tourney.

 

http://www.nhl.com/i...s.htm?id=705013


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 10:15 AM

I know folks have mentioned it, but here's the official NHL link ruling him out for the tourney.

 

http://www.nhl.com/i...s.htm?id=705013

 

 

Wooooooooo.

 

Z will slowly have to gain back my respect since he dared to try to play in the Olympics - it could have jeopardized his playing time with the Red Wings.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 10:18 AM

Z will slowly have to gain back my respect since he dared to try to play in the Olympics


My brain just exploded.

Anyhoo...

Here's to hoping he doesn't have to have surgery, and that some time off will do him good. Please.

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 10:35 AM

 

 

Wooooooooo.

 

Z will slowly have to gain back my respect since he dared to try to play in the Olympics - it could have jeopardized his playing time with the Red Wings.

 

I'm sure that other than his health and trying to carry Detroit into the playoffs, this is his biggest worry: gaining back your respect.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 10:39 AM

Then why are you here?  I DO care about the NHL season and the Red Wings.  I don't give a flying f*** about the Olympics.  I want the players who are being paid to play here to have their loyalties to the Red Wings.  "We" don't owe them anything. Zetterberg has the life and career he has because of the Red Wings, not because of Team Sweden.   Let's hope this puts an end to this ridiculous Olympics BS once and for all.

 

Spoken like someone whos never gotten the shot to represent there country in something. To most athletes (especially those from Europe) representing ones country is the highest honor. Yes even more so than the Stanley Cup. Hank owes nothing to the Red Wings or Red Wings fans. He has the life he has because he worked his ass off not because the Wings gifted him a paycheck. He helped bring a Championship and almost a second to this city when the team was supposed to be in transition. If anything the fans owe him for the joy hes brought them. He's earned the right to put Sweden over the Wings. I dont know what fantasy land your in but the Wings are not contenders this year. Sweden on the other hand was a contender for a Gold Medal. Common sense dictates which one he should go for at the end of a career. Challenging his loyalties because he went and played in the Olympics is just disrespectful for a guy whose battled for over 10 years for the Wings and its fans. Get over yourself. 


Z will slowly have to gain back my respect since he dared to try to play in the Olympics - it could have jeopardized his playing time with the Red Wings.

 

Yes because carrying this team on his injured back the past couple months is not worth your respect. 


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 10:51 AM

I feel terrible for Z. You know the pain is severe if he isn't out there playing.

If Z does end up having surgery, I can't see the playoff streak continuing. Pav is obviously still hurt, Franzen hasn't skated and Weiss is just coming back. Z has been the MVP and heart and soul of this team through all of the injuries this season, including playing through one of his own.
 
 
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Posted 14 February 2014 - 10:59 AM

I don't know about you guys but I'm already done with this season. I'll watch as many games as I can but we aren't going anywhere this year.  Zetterberg may need surgery, Datsyuk isn't 100% and Franzen could be done as well. Time to look forward to next season already.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:00 AM

I don't know about you guys but I'm already done with this season. I'll watch as many games as I can but we aren't going anywhere this year.  Zetterberg may need surgery, Datsyuk isn't 100% and Franzen could be done as well. Time to look forward to next season already.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:03 AM

Get well Z..let's just hope Pav does not make his injury worse



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:05 AM

For those saying Datsyuk and Zetterberg should have opted to not participate in Olympics... Have you ever heard about the national pride? There are only few things in this modern world you can't buy and this is one of them.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:06 AM

I feel terrible for Z. You know the pain is severe if he isn't out there playing.

If Z does end up having surgery, I can't see the playoff streak continuing. Pav is obviously still hurt, Franzen hasn't skated and Weiss is just coming back. Z has been the MVP and heart and soul of this team through all of the injuries this season, including playing through one of his own.

 

Ever the optimist, while I see that Z has literally picked this team up and onto his back and carried them as far as he could take us pre-Olympics, I still think we've got a shot. 

 

The good I can see coming out of this would be the fact that we get the kids to stay up for longer and continue their great play. If Weiss can come back and actually be the player the Wings thought they were getting when we signed him, then that will surely help, and if Pavel can get healthy, with Jimmy looking like he's found his game, I still wouldn't count us out, even without Z. I know you're all probably going to trash me for this, but until we either make the playoffs or are officially eliminated, I'm not going to give up hope. 

 

Maybe KH will make a deal to get us some offensive help? Maybe he'll acquire Edler. Who knows. Either way, I have no qualms about Z playing in the Olympics. Like others have said, his back would have gone out anyway Olympics or not. He had to opportunity to Captain his team to a Gold medal they had a great shot at, so I don't blame him. (aside: Sweden didn't look the same today against the Swiss without him).


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