wings87 1,290 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) We've had some discussion in the Olympic thread about which teams on the International stage have the Biggest rivalry. So just curious what some of you guys think. To me at the present time there is no more bigger rivalry then USA vs Canada. Edited February 16, 2014 by wings87 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 Austria - Germany Finland - Sweden Norway - Denmark Russia - Canada Slovenia - Slovakia Canada - USA is a big rivalry but I think. Canada - Russia tops that Sent from my BlackBerry 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) I voted Canada Russia because of the history, but I think USA vs Canada has been the more prominent rivalry since the NHL started taking part in the games. Edited February 16, 2014 by FlashyG 1 DatsyukianDekes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegerkin 189 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 USA vs Canada - World Juniors and Women's hockey for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 Austria - Germany Finland - Sweden Norway - Denmark Russia - Canada Slovenia - Slovakia Canada - USA is a big rivalry but I think. Canada - Russia tops that Sent from my BlackBerry This is all pretty much spot on, except Slovenia and Slovakia. I think you meant Czech Republic and Slovakia? 2 frankgrimes and ahkmed reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 Throughout the entire history of International play, at all levels, it's easily Canada v. USSR. That wasn't offered as a choice, so Canada - Russia will do, thank you very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 Throughout the entire history of International play, at all levels, it's easily Canada v. USSR. That wasn't offered as a choice, so Canada - Russia will do, thank you very much. In history sure, but since the Soviet Union broke up the rivalry has been somewhat toned down. Which has let the US, Canada rivalry take center stage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 To me there is a difference between the Canada Russia and Canada USA rivalries. I hate when Canada loses to anyone, but the hatred when they lose to Russia is far worse than it is with the US. I think it will take losing a big game to the US to elevate them into the Russia category for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings10 300 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 Russia vs. Canada..not even close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ally 448 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 Canada vs Russia but Canada vs US is close simply because of how much I have to hear it from Americans when they win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 This is all pretty much spot on, except Slovenia and Slovakia. I think you meant Czech Republic and Slovakia? Yes my bad :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordie Howe hat trick 110 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 You have to go Canada v. USSR/Russia, It may have toned down but that bad blood will never be satiated. Hell on a lesser degree I still hate the Avs, though that rivalry has died down alot and everyone who was really in it has retired, but our little squabble doesn't even hold a candle to Canada v. whatever the Russians are calling themselves this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillwater 186 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 Thus far 19 Americans have voted USA - Canada. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Thus far 19 Americans have voted USA - Canada.And how many Canadians voted Russia vs Canada?It's really all about perspective. Edited February 17, 2014 by wings87 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillwater 186 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 It's really all about perspective. Oh, is it. Sadly Canada 1 VS Canada 2 wasn't an option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillwater 186 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) If Canada - USA is another classic, like 2010 in Vancouver ... that rivalry will surpass the CAN - RUS rivalry for many Canadians. Nobody cares what the Russians think. Edited February 17, 2014 by stillwater Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joshy207 156 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 I voted Canada/Russia (USSR) based on the history... Summit Series of '72, the "Punch-Up at Piestany" WJC game from '87, the Canada Cup battles... but I think USA/Canada has developed into just as good of a rivalry, without the deep-rooted mutual dislike. '96 World Cup, '10 Olympic Final in Vancouver, and some of the WJC games have been outstanding hockey. Add in the women's side and this rivalry may be taking over... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotorCityMadness 388 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 Historically Canada vs Russia Currently I'd say a tie between US/CAN and SWE/FIN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 I voted Canada Russia because of the history, but I think USA vs Canada has been the more prominent rivalry since the NHL started taking part in the games. 100% this. USA is better then Russia and have been for awhile. Russia and Canada had some of the best matches on international ice in the past, but recently Canada vs USA is the rivalry. 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted February 18, 2014 Historically speaking, it isn't even close....Canada vs. Russia. Medal counts don't always mean everything, but in this case, it does tell a lot of the story. Total Gold medals in men's World Juniors, World Championships and Olympics = Russia - 50, Canada - 47, Czech - 15. I think the US is around 5 or 6. If you include Silvers, it's even more of a difference. I would agree that Canada vs. US might have a more slight edge in recent years, but it will need to grow greater and last longer for history to be ignored. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RusDRW 155 Report post Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) USA is better then Russia and have been for awhile. based on what? Silver medal in 2010? also Finland-Sweden rivalry is really underrated among hockey fans. Edited February 18, 2014 by RusDRW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted February 18, 2014 100% this. USA is better then Russia and have been for awhile. Russia and Canada had some of the best matches on international ice in the past, but recently Canada vs USA is the rivalry. Sorry but this isn't true. Russia - Canada is THE international rivalry in hockey, it's pure hatred filled with a lot of emotions dating back to many memories even form UDSSR and cold war times. USA - Canada is intense and hatred but Russia - Canada is still on another level. I also agree, that the rivalry between Finland - Sweden is underrated they can't stand eachother at all and I wouldn't hesitate to compare it with USA - Canada in terms of hatred. There are really some good rivalries sadly we don't see them as often as we are used to, since the ranking formats in tournaments are getting changed too often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted February 18, 2014 Sorry but this isn't true. Russia - Canada is THE international rivalry in hockey, it's pure hatred filled with a lot of emotions dating back to many memories even form UDSSR and cold war times. USA - Canada is intense and hatred but Russia - Canada is still on another level. I also agree, that the rivalry between Finland - Sweden is underrated they can't stand eachother at all and I wouldn't hesitate to compare it with USA - Canada in terms of hatred. There are really some good rivalries sadly we don't see them as often as we are used to, since the ranking formats in tournaments are getting changed too often. I disagree with this in recent years, I never said Russia vs Canada isn't the international rivalry. Canada vs Russia in Vancouver wasn't as intense as Canada vs USA. Canada beat Russia 7-3 and the game wasn't that intense besides the first 10 minutes. I have watched that game 100 times, it wasn't close to the games against USA. 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peabrain 5 Report post Posted February 20, 2014 Throughout the entire history of International play, at all levels, it's easily Canada v. USSR. That wasn't offered as a choice, so Canada - Russia will do, thank you very much. Clearly you and many others are to young to have seen the bouts between cccp-cssr after prague spring of 68. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted February 20, 2014 Clearly you and many others are to young to have seen the bouts between cccp-cssr after prague spring of 68. Yup, I was born 20 years after that, so for me USA Canada is the better rivalry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites