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Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd



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#261 achildr1

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:33 PM

 
Fixed it for you.
 
We have way too many people thinking that Jarnkrok was a top tier talented prospect.  The fact of the matter is that he wasn't.  He was a above average rated prospect with a C level probability of success.  I have watched this guy in Grand Rapids, and while he is good, he isn't elite by any stretch of the imagination. 


Says who?!?! Jarnkrok has been our top prospect for years until Mantha came. Per THN and RWC. This year he struggled but even then they were saying his potential landed him between Filppula and Zetterberg and his floor was Legwand.

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:34 PM

 

2nd becomes Datsyuk if we win the cup according to Khan.

 

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#263 Son of a Wing

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:34 PM

Everyone keeps saying Legwand is declining. His stats are remarkably consistent, and the last few years he's been right at about 50 points each time. This year he should crack it again.

 

I haven't seen one person even mention anything about him declining.  

 

Just not going to pretend being in his mid 30s is a positive thing.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:34 PM

I don't mind it becoming a second if we make playoffs cause then we have a top 6 of datsyuk, z, franzen Alfie legwand, and nyquist.... That's fine by me

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:34 PM

Legwand will be our second highest scorer (second only to Zetterberg).

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:35 PM

I think people are a bit quick to stomp on the panic button here. What a lot of you aren't considering is Jarnkrok's verbal desire to return to Europe and play hockey over there. If that is the case down the line, Eaves and a 3rd for Legwand isn't bad, especially if Legwand re-signs here. 

 

Look at how many we have injured and Eaves still barely makes the line-up. We have a lot of players that can fill in his role. A 3rd might equate to a bottom 6 forward in 5-6 years, the rarity of getting a gem in the 3rd doesn't outweigh the risk. 

 

A lot of this decision was based around Jarnkrok potentially pulling a Kovalchuk and bailing out of the NHL system. If that happens, a lot of you are gonna feel better about this deal. I'm assuming management knows more about this scenario than we do

 

Take a deep breath, this isn't the end of the world.

This is what I'm thinking.  There's no way Kenny would've made that trade unless there was something more to it.




 
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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:35 PM

I bet he will be on the Preds roster next season..contributing.


Me too...they promise him a spot on the big club and i think he'll stay. This has Erat/Forsberg writtwn all over it.

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:35 PM

 

Fixed it for you.

 

We have way too many people thinking that Jarnkrok was a top tier talented prospect.  The fact of the matter is that he wasn't.  He was a above average rated prospect with a C level probability of success.  I have watched this guy in Grand Rapids, and while he is good, he isn't elite by any stretch of the imagination. 

Yeah,Legwand wasn't elite at Calle's age either,let alone now



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:36 PM

Still sucks one way or another that Jarnkrok is gone. I hope he fails to report to his new team

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:36 PM

Holland needs to do a press conference to explain this. 




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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:37 PM

People comparing Legwand to Weiss. smh...

 

Weiss in 26 games has 2G 2A

Legwand in 62 games has 10G 30A

 

Holland said Legwand is going to be our #1 center for awhile between Nyquist and Franzen. So I'm assuming Legwand is #1 for the next 3 weeks while Datsyuk is out. Still gives us a chance to make the playoffs. Certainly a hell of a better chance than Andersson playing #1. IF we make the playoffs we could do some damage.

 

Z-Pav-Alfie

Nyquist-Legwand-Franzen

Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco

Miller - Glendening/Weiss - Abby.

 

I feel a lot more comfortable playing Legwand #2 than Weiss at this point. At least it would allow Z and Pav to play on the same line if we make the playoffs.

 

EDIT: Could also allow us to buy out Weiss this summer and resign Legwand. 


Edited by DannyD, 05 March 2014 - 04:40 PM.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:37 PM

I bet he will be on the Preds roster next season..contributing.

Consider the fact that he would have to say "I WANT to play for Nashville". :lol:

 

Really, no one wants that. 


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:38 PM

He probably didn't want to stuck in GR for another 3 seasons..Preds wouldn't have him part of the deal, to just bolt to Sweden.



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:38 PM

 

Poile doesn't have ties here, a house here...

He probably got Holland's house too in that trade. :ninja:



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:39 PM

There has to be something about Jarnkrok we are not aware off. Despite what other say : Holland is no fool. And it would be a damn foolish trade if he traded one of our Top5 prospects + something for a UFA-rental, even with the injuries we have.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:39 PM

 

2nd becomes Datsyuk if we win the cup according to Khan.

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#277 Nightfall

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:40 PM

Says who?!?! Jarnkrok has been our top prospect for years until Mantha came. Per THN and RWC. This year he struggled but even then they were saying his potential landed him between Filppula and Zetterberg and his floor was Legwand.

 

Says hockey prospects website.  Besides, we have had better prospects in the system that have actually panned out.  Nyquist and Tatar come to mind.  Pulkkinen comes to mind as well who is actually tearing it up as a member of the Griffins.  I am not saying that Jarnkrok isn't a good prospect, but just that people here are putting him up on a pedestal as being the best prospect we have, and thats disingenuous.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:40 PM

The only thing that will make me accept this trade is if jarnkrok quits playing hockey so he can go back to Sweden to be a dancer

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:40 PM

WHO EVER THINK WERE THAT MUCH BETTER TODAY THAN WE WERE YESYERDAY BEFORE THE DEVILS GAME, THINK TWICE... The only reason Holland panicked because helm got injured and the diagnosis on Pavel was a few weeks..... This is just a patch to continue playoff streak. In no way helps us for the future, EVEN IF WE DO RESIGN LEGWAND...

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:40 PM

Even if Jarnkrok IS leaving for Sweden next year this is still a HUGE overpayment.  Way too much of a risk.  Eaves a third and Ferraro would have been more than fair.

 

If he decides he likes it in Nashville this trade is very likely going to haunt us for years.

True that Ferraro and a third would have been better, but that last bit about haunting us for years is a little bombastic, isn't it? I don't spend any time watching prospects in the minors, so I'm not well-informed on jarnkrok's talent...but is he really that good? It just seems like lots of people are ready to jump off the ledge right now - I know it's an accumulation of Holland's inactivity, but still. It's one trade.


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