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#41 Hockeymom1960

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 11:10 AM

Better than Bertuzzi, but the Wings need impact players back instead of rotating in bodies. The team look uninspired against the Oilers, so hopefully Tootoo can provide some energy and excitement in Chicago. 

 

I didn't see the game because I had to work but this just pisses me off.  We're in a fight to make the playoffs and they look uninspired?????



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Posted 16 March 2014 - 11:20 AM

I hate to pick one thing out of your post but I'm going to anyways because it's the only that I can statiscally disagree with and the rest is mostly opinion. Last year he didn't take as many stupid penalties as I was expecting and only seemed to put us in trouble with that a few times. Also for the entire time he has worn a Wings sweater his Penalty +/- is +2. So for every minor he takes, he draws 3. That's good for 8th on the team behind Pav, Z, Tatar, Nyquist, Alfie, Helm and Abdelkader. In comparison this year Quincey is -21, Kronwall is -15, and even a skilled guy in Franzen is -5. So as far as the stupid penalty thing, he helps in that regard more than he hurts.

Edit: All stats taken from http://www.extraskat...13#player-stats


Im glad someone pulled this stat up. Toots rewards far outweigh his risks of the 'stupid penalty' that some would contend he takes everyshift.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 11:49 AM

well i hope he can help us win tonbight, Philly is beating Pittsburgh AGAIN. 2-0 right now



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Posted 16 March 2014 - 12:15 PM

well i hope he can help us win tonbight, Philly is beating Pittsburgh AGAIN. 2-0 right now

 

Philly deserves to be in the playoffs with the roll they're on.  They're doing something we need to be doing, which is putting a streak together.  


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 12:24 PM

 

Philly deserves to be in the playoffs with the role they're on.  They're doing something we need to be doing, which is putting a streak together.  

Beat Pittsburgh last night and looking to do the same thing again today. They are fired up because they know they have to win. I think  the Wings believe they get into the playoffs based on seniority or something.



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Posted 16 March 2014 - 12:44 PM

Finally, Tootoo is back.  This will put an end to our goal scoring woes. 


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 01:08 PM

Like I said, I like Tootoo. I'm not trying to hate on him. But I don't think any number of stats is really going to invalidate anything I said. Babs wants a player he can trust (and one who's very good defensively and can be leaned on, if need be). That has always been an issue with Tootoo. Maybe it's less of an issue lately, but the very fact that it's even a consideration is not going to help his standing when we've got 40 solid bottom-sixers.

 

Actually, if we want to talk stats, I vaguely remember reading something over at WIIM earlier this season that showed Tootoo was a surprisingly good possession-driver. Which is cool. But, again, 40 candidates for that #12 spot, all but maybe two of them are PK specialists and solid defensive players...and Tootoo is one of those two. Some people are talking like it makes no sense for Babs to not use him. My point is it absolutely makes sense.

 

He's been called up because we could use a shot in the arm. And probably also to help him get NHL work this summer, after we buy him out. I, for one, am glad, but I'm trying to be realistic about it. I know that if he scores tonight someone's going to quote this post and say something snotty. But I'll be just as happy as anyone else here if he has a positive impact, does something to stick in the lineup. I'm rooting for the guy, 100%.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 01:11 PM

 
I didn't see the game because I had to work but this just pisses me off.  We're in a fight to make the playoffs and they look uninspired?????


I thought so. And I'm not someone that believes effort has been a major issue for the Red Wings this season. Most games they show up and just don't have the skill to put them over the top with all of the injuries. Outside of Sheahan and Tatar, nobody really seemed engaged against the Oilers.
 
 
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Posted 16 March 2014 - 01:12 PM

(Also - it's not opinion that trust is all-important to Mike Babcock. He's said as much. I'm not just pulling this stuff out of my butt.)


Edited by Dabura, 16 March 2014 - 01:13 PM.

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#50 Bring Back The Bruise Bros

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 03:51 PM

Like I said, I like Tootoo. I'm not trying to hate on him. But I don't think any number of stats is really going to invalidate anything I said. Babs wants a player he can trust (and one who's very good defensively and can be leaned on, if need be). That has always been an issue with Tootoo. Maybe it's less of an issue lately, but the very fact that it's even a consideration is not going to help his standing when we've got 40 solid bottom-sixers.
 
Actually, if we want to talk stats, I vaguely remember reading something over at WIIM earlier this season that showed Tootoo was a surprisingly good possession-driver. Which is cool. But, again, 40 candidates for that #12 spot, all but maybe two of them are PK specialists and solid defensive players...and Tootoo is one of those two. Some people are talking like it makes no sense for Babs to not use him. My point is it absolutely makes sense.
 
He's been called up because we could use a shot in the arm. And probably also to help him get NHL work this summer, after we buy him out. I, for one, am glad, but I'm trying to be realistic about it. I know that if he scores tonight someone's going to quote this post and say something snotty. But I'll be just as happy as anyone else here if he has a positive impact, does something to stick in the lineup. I'm rooting for the guy, 100%.

Solid post. I'd rather see him bought out this summer and have him find a spot on an NHL roster than have us let him rot in Grand Rapids. I like him and was jazzed when we signed him, but we're not utilizing him properly.
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Posted 16 March 2014 - 04:04 PM

(Also - it's not opinion that trust is all-important to Mike Babcock. He's said as much. I'm not just pulling this stuff out of my butt.)


Never said you were, and I never said I disagreed with you on the trust aspect. All I said was that your statement of him taking stupid penalties was invalid and used stats to back it up. So yes, a few stats can invalidate some of what you said.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:56 PM

Tootoo indirectly got me out of a speeding ticket the other day.
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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:59 PM

Tootoo indirectly got me out of a speeding ticket the other day.
Go Jordin!


Go on...

(Also - it's not opinion that trust is all-important to Mike Babcock. He's said as much. I'm not just pulling this stuff out of my butt.)


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#54 GMRwings1983

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 07:19 PM

He needs to quiet down Bickell in this game.  Same with Bollig.  


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 08:11 PM

He needs to quiet down Bickell in this game.  Same with Bollig.  

Bickell is a huge spot-picker and Bollig has fought a grand total of 3 times this year. Love how Bollig was getting all chippy with Dekeyser of all people in the first.

Edited by Bring Back The Bruise Bros, 16 March 2014 - 08:11 PM.

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