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#41 ben_usmc

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:47 PM

if one thing has been made clear with these injuries, it's that tatar/nyquist are not players in the mold of datsyuk/zetterberg - they aren't the guys that are going to carry your team.  they're secondary players.

WTF it's their rookie seasons.  Didn't realize Datsyuk/Z could have taken over for Stevie/Feds in 02/03 time frame


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 09:24 AM

Bertuzzi is the new Franzen.  Franzen has been OK to good this year.



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 09:29 AM

Lets set some things straight.
1. Franzen has not played great all year. He has played like crap fro most of the year. In October he played 12 games and scored 2 goals, both in the same game. In November he played in 10 games-missed 4 while hurt and scored 4 goals. In december he played in 8 games, missed 6 while hurt and scored 3 goals. In january he played 1 game, missed 12 and scored 0 goals. In February he played in 2 games, missed 4 others and scored 3 goals-all in the same game. March he has played in 7 games, missed none and has 3 goals. But again nothing the last 4.
2. Leaders lead, not push. If you want to lead Johan, put the puck in the net! That is how leaders do it.
3. Leaders also don't disappear. I understand that no one scores in every game. But goals scorers do it more than once a month. Your even worse, because when you don't score you stop skating, checking, playing D etc.....


Pro rated over a full year, on pace for 30 goals and 68 points... God why is he so awful. That's definitely not worth his 4 million cap hit.

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 10:18 AM

I know he started like poo and has seen little birdies floating around his head this year. But I think the biggest thing with him is that I am guessing they figured out the proper dosages for depression meds and that's why we are seeing a better overall effort for him.


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 10:52 AM

You subtract 2 games from franzen this year and he has 3 months with 0 goals. That isn't great. I don't care about his pro rated numbers. he has 30+ goals once in his 9 year career. it isn't something he is going to do. Do you really expect nyquist to score 40 goals next season? that is his pace this year..... no. he isn't that type of player.



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:12 AM

You subtract 2 games from franzen this year and he has 3 months with 0 goals. That isn't great. I don't care about his pro rated numbers. he has 30+ goals once in his 9 year career. it isn't something he is going to do. Do you really expect nyquist to score 40 goals next season? that is his pace this year..... no. he isn't that type of player.


He's on pace for 30 goals, which is quite possible. Nyquist is on pace for 36, why is that not possible? He is very young and still developing and it's not like his goals are fluky? They are all good goals, don't understand how you can discredit that. It seems some people like to complain even about the positives and spin them into negatives

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 01:04 PM

He's on pace for 30 goals, which is quite possible. Nyquist is on pace for 36, why is that not possible? He is very young and still developing and it's not like his goals are fluky? They are all good goals, don't understand how you can discredit that. It seems some people like to complain even about the positives and spin them into negatives


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 01:25 PM

You subtract 2 games from franzen this year and he has 3 months with 0 goals. That isn't great. I don't care about his pro rated numbers. he has 30+ goals once in his 9 year career. it isn't something he is going to do. Do you really expect nyquist to score 40 goals next season? that is his pace this year..... no. he isn't that type of player.


And if you subtract the 7 games he didn't score in those months then he scored in every game he played in for 3 whole months. Subtracting facts to make your argument is asinine. Fact is when guys went down he stepped up. He can't carry the team forever and you can't expect him to score everygame when the other team knows that he's the guy.

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 07:19 PM

if one thing has been made clear with these injuries, it's that tatar/nyquist are not players in the mold of datsyuk/zetterberg - they aren't the guys that are going to carry your team.  they're secondary players.

LOL.....every time I read your posts I get a laugh..... man, do you watch this team???? Have you seen this kid Gus? These kids??? Look at the score sheet over the last 5 games and tell me who is carrying the team.
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Posted 19 March 2014 - 07:25 PM

If anyone on the team is in a position to say this, it's Franzen.  He has been our best player over the injury streak.

That's because every other candidate is hurt OR because the only two players that haven't been hurt this year are Quincey and Miller.....and Miller has been a defensive stud ...just sayin
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Posted 19 March 2014 - 08:12 PM

And if you subtract the 7 games he didn't score in those months then he scored in every game he played in for 3 whole months. Subtracting facts to make your argument is asinine. Fact is when guys went down he stepped up. He can't carry the team forever and you can't expect him to score everygame when the other team knows that he's the guy.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 06:01 AM

Franzen needs to play like he's playing every game not just when other key guys go down.  Isn't he suppose to be a key player on this team?  



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Posted 20 March 2014 - 09:56 AM

I'm all for mule speaking up. I like that. Coaching also tends to be overlooked. This goes a long way. Babs isn't bad but there's just something about these horrific 3rd periods that make you scratch your head and wonder why they can't play harder and smarter when the other teams decide to bring it. I mean the defense has been downright scary in every 3rd period and clutch saves don't seem to exist either. I just can't understand why they poop the bed in the final 20 minutes of every game.


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Posted 21 March 2014 - 11:38 AM

LOL.....every time I read your posts I get a laugh..... man, do you watch this team???? Have you seen this kid Gus? These kids??? Look at the score sheet over the last 5 games and tell me who is carrying the team.
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To hell with the last 5 games dude....Nyquist has like 27 points in the last 21 games I think.  He's been like Z Jr lately.  We may make the playoffs on his back this year.  That sounds like a future leader to me.  And yes, his posts are often quite funny.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 07:51 PM

I'm all for mule speaking up. I like that. Coaching also tends to be overlooked. This goes a long way. Babs isn't bad but there's just something about these horrific 3rd periods that make you scratch your head and wonder why they can't play harder and smarter when the other teams decide to bring it. I mean the defense has been downright scary in every 3rd period and clutch saves don't seem to exist either. I just can't understand why they poop the bed in the final 20 minutes of every game.

 

I think it is easy to understand. The other team kicks it up another gear, and brings out the inexperience in our young players. It leads to them making mistakes. But they are getting better. That is what matters. It was different when we had the likes of Lidstrom and Zetterberg out there to close out games. 



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Posted 22 March 2014 - 07:55 PM

We haven't lost since Franzen made is statement.  Coincidence?  I don't think so.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 07:59 PM

We haven't lost since Franzen made is statement.  Coincidence?  I don't think so.

 

Some will point out he hasn't scored in a few games. But when it comes down to it, that first line has been playing the opponents best shut down guys every night, which frees up Gus and the kid line to work their magic. 



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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:00 PM

Franzen is worth every penny. He has always been streaky but can win a series by himself if he gets hot. I dont care about all the haters now Ill take him at that price any day.



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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:03 PM

Franzen is worth every penny. He has always been streaky but can win a series by himself if he gets hot. I dont care about all the haters now Ill take him at that price any day.


I agree. Even if he retires early and we take a small hit on the recapture penalty I won't be upset. He's been good for the majority of this year, and if he's hit a cold streak right now I won't be too upset if it means he'll turn hot again going into the playoffs, most fans of other teams will tell you he isn't someone you want to play against

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:05 PM

Bertuzzi is the new Franzen.  Franzen has been OK to good this year.

I think bart has been looking good the last few games.





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