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3/25 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

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After all these injuries and with only 10 games left the positive is that the Wings are in a playoff spot, that is incredible in itself.

It really is pretty incredible. I mean, we're all bent out of shape about our team not getting it done (and justifiably so, I guess), but, like, look at it from the perspective of a Wild fan. We should've been an easy four points for them. No team has any business being as competitive as we've been with the injuries we're dealing with. (Yeah, I know, the Penguins. But everyone knows that's a lame comparison.) And now we may be getting a bit healthier.

So, yes, losing this game sucks. But that we're even upset about this loss is a remarkable thing. Our season should be over. We should be in free fall mode like the Sens. None of this should matter. And yet, here we are, holding down a playoff spot.

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It really is pretty incredible. I mean, we're all bent out of shape about our team not getting it done (and justifiably so, I guess), but, like, look at it from the perspective of a Wild fan. We should've been an easy four points for them. No team has any business being as competitive as we've been with the injuries we're dealing with. (Yeah, I know, the Penguins. But everyone knows that's a lame comparison.) And now we may be getting a bit healthier.

So, yes, losing this game sucks. But that we're even upset about this loss is a remarkable thing. Our season should be over. We should be in free fall mode like the Sens. None of this should matter. And yet, here we are, holding down a playoff spot.

Granted, it's largely a testament to how weak the East is. But still.

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Lackluster game all around. We were hemmed in our zone far too much, refs made and didn't make some questionable calls (both ways). I thought that third goal given up by Howard was somewhat weak despite it being a 2 on 1, and we really can't expect Nyquist to keep scoring every single one of our goals. I still like a lot of what I'm seeing lately but we just can't seem to get everything clicking at once.

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What it is mother f***ers?!?!?

My mind's racing right now from all the booze and things I couldn't say during the game. 1) Where the f*** are our veterans? Nobody expects Bertuzzi to be good, he's washed up, where are Alfie, Franzen, and Kronwall? 2) Don't go giving "the best coach in the league" too much credit for the recent upswing considering his two best players (the guys clawing this team into the playoff picture) are guys he actively worked to keep out of the lineup by bringing back Cleary and playing, Sammy, and Bert, and he over the kids. This was never in his plan. 3) Just when you think Brendan Smith is trending upward he goes full on retard. -2 tonight, including a horrible pinch in the third (very bad idea), empty netter (not his fault), and a terrible penalty in the first (away from the play) that resulted in a goal. Meanwhile Kyle Quincey was even with more ice time. 4) If I was Tomas Tatar's agent I would jam Holland up this off season. Make that f***** pay. What? He's not going to re-sign you? 5) Callahan looked good...or at least he looked like a real winger. Speaking of which, get Andersson off the wing, he literally had ZERO impact all game. 6) Jimmy was fine...don't blame Jimmy.

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What are you talking about bad performances? Not at all we played great. That 3rd Goal by CBJ shouldn't have counted should have been waved off. I very upset after seeing that. What the hell? No Goal No Goal No Goal. What the Hell were the Video Goal Judge thinking????? We got cheated out of a Possible point or two OT anything could have happened. That 3rd Goal by CBJ should be reviewed by the League and waved off. We should play via a 2-2 tie and see if we make it to OT. That Goal was a No Goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Would that Alfie line be the resurrection of the "Two kids and a goat line"?

I feel like Alfie would benefit from the chaos around the net Tatar and Sheahan cause so often. Plus, having two really strong shots on one line is a good idea.

Then, if Franzen gets hot and Nyquist is playing with him look out. That's two or three goals a game from one line.

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The Jackets weren't out of it even if they lost. There's still a lot of time left and so many things can happen, as evidenced by Toronto's recent free fall. All these other teams are fighting for playoff spots, too. They're no better or worse than the Red Wings and every team is going to bring it every night. Even teams like Buffalo and the Islanders are competitive at this time of year.

Franzen has always been incredibly streaky. I don't know why fans act so surprised every time this happens. Whether it's his physical or mental health, I don't know, but he's always been this way and always will be this way. For his cap hit, his numbers are well worth the highs and lows. The Wings wouldn't even be in the playoff race right now had he not come off the Olympic break on fire like he did.

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For real? In a league where poor officiating is the standard, tonight somehow topped that. They called everything for 10 minutes, nothing the rest of the way except for that "slash" (which wasn't) on Legwand. The refs were a disaster.

I won't get into a debate on what the refs called. That never ends well, and as a referee myself, I am a bit more understanding than the common Wings fan. Lets put it this way.....

The refs were not the reason why the Wings lost that game. I don't necessarily agree with all the calls in the course of the game. What I do believe is that good teams find a way to get the job done. The Wings were not the better team tonight and I feel they made more mistakes than Columbus did.

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Bad. Outplayed in pretty much every aspect. Out muscled and beaten by another backup goalie. I can't name anyone on the BJ's that are great but man we made Brandon Dubinsky look like Stamkos. As bad as we played, the game was still winnable. Can we trade Howard every 3rd period? Just once I'd love him to not give up a goal in the 3rd period.

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Outside of the kid line i don't think anybody had a particularly good game. Even the kid line got hemmed in their own zone for entire shifts. Howard made some big saves, but he couldn't single handedly will the team to victory, which he shouldn't have to.

Honestly I don't know what this team needs. Probably for kindl and bert to not be on it. Outside of that I don't know what will work.

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The Bert hate around here is absurd. First of all, he didn't have a terrible game minus the penalty at the beginning which was incidental and happens a thousand times a week in the NHL. Secondly, Bert's not an X factor on this team. He's a washed up injury replacement who wouldn't be playing on a healthy roster. We neither win nor lose based on Bert's play. Wanna blame anyone? Blame Kronwall, Alfie, and Franzen for not showing up in a week (at least). Oh, and our terrible defense.

Everybody around here always thinks that the reason we're no good some nights is because a third liner or bottom pair defenseman isn't very good...as if other teams don't have those too. Guess what? Boston's Shawn Thornton isn't very good and has, almost certainly, taken dumb penalties/got outclassed by more skilled players to the detriment of his team. Yet they win anyway. Why? They don't rely on bottom line players to win them games.

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The Bert hate around here is absurd. First of all, he didn't have a terrible game minus the penalty at the beginning which was incidental and happens a thousand times a week in the NHL. Secondly, Bert's not an X factor on this team. He's a washed up injury replacement who wouldn't be playing on a healthy roster. We neither win nor lose based on Bert's play. Wanna blame anyone? Blame Kronwall, Alfie, and Franzen for not showing up in a week (at least). Oh, and our terrible defense.

Everybody around here always thinks that the reason we're no good some nights is because a third liner or bottom pair defenseman isn't very good...as if other teams don't have those too. Guess what? Boston's Shawn Thornton isn't very good and has, almost certainly, taken dumb penalties/got outclassed by more skilled players to the detriment of his team. Yet they win anyway. Why? They don't rely on bottom line players to win them games.

They also don't have 11 AHL players in the lineup. Take away Boston's entire top 6, plus another defensemen and let's see how they do. Easy to say other teams that are healthy top players always perform when the Wings have maybe 6 regular NHL players in the lineup and are easy to shut down because you can just focus all the pressure on them.

As for Bert, I usually am a big supporter of him, but if you watched last night you would see some of the dumb decisions he makes with the puck. Instead of dumping it in when he is on the wing he will almost always try to throw a pass across to the other wing which 99% of the time gets picked off and creates rushes the other way unexpectedly. I noticed him do this at least 6-7 times yesterday. He is not helping this team at all and would much rather Pulk played in his position. Bert tries to force plays sometimes and it is a determent to this teams play.

This season has hopefully taught management one thing i hope, and it's let the kids play and get rid of the old farts.

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They also don't have 11 AHL players in the lineup. Take away Boston's entire top 6, plus another defensemen and let's see how they do. Easy to say other teams that are healthy top players always perform when the Wings have maybe 6 regular NHL players in the lineup and are easy to shut down because you can just focus all the pressure on them.

As for Bert, I usually am a big supporter of him, but if you watched last night you would see some of the dumb decisions he makes with the puck. Instead of dumping it in when he is on the wing he will almost always try to throw a pass across to the other wing which 99% of the time gets picked off and creates rushes the other way unexpectedly. I noticed him do this at least 6-7 times yesterday. He is not helping this team at all and would much rather Pulk played in his position. Bert tries to force plays sometimes and it is a determent to this teams play.

This season has hopefully taught management one thing i hope, and it's let the kids play and get rid of the old farts.

Addressing your point about Boston, I agree. If the Bruins where missing pieces like we are they'd probably struggle too. And when they did I sure hope their fan base wouldn't go blaming loses on their third line wingers and bottom pair defensemen. Because that would be misguided...and stupid.

Of course Bertuzzi makes bad plays, he's a washed up veteran who can hardly skate. But replacing him with a kid who's clearly not ready for NHL competition doesn't help you at all either. Because guess who else makes bad plays? Kids who are in over their heads. For the time being we've got nobody better to play on this patched up third line than Bert. When Jurco's back it probably won't be an issue anymore.

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Last night I tried to find commentary from the fine forum folks about the high stick that hit Drew Miller. So, if Bertuzzi had his head turned and didn't even try to hit guy with stick and it HAD to be called a high stick because you are always responsible for your stick. Then why was the high stick that hit Drew Miller not a must-call, yes he was hit by our guy which caused his stick to come up and hit Miller, but there is no gray area, you are always responsible for your stick?

Also, I apologize now for the loss. Its my fault because I actually knew how important this game was and started watching right at gametime, kicking my kid's cartoons off the air, not putting them to bed claiming to my wife when she asked why I was watching ("is it the playoffs? no but its super important game to get in the playoffs") and why I was shirking my family responsibilities.

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Hopefully the hockey gods can bless us down the stretch because lately we have been winning despite some bad breaks.

If Nyquist has not been the best player in the NHL we don't win any of these close games. Other guys truly need to get on the score sheet consistently or we won't make the playoffs

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