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#1 wings87

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 01:26 PM

So I've been wondering, hypothetically if a truly lopsided trade where to be made; I'll use the Wings as an example. Let's say Detroit trades Abby for Crosby, would the league step in and block it?

Is there anything in the CBA that gives the commissioner the power to block a one sided trade, for the fear that it might reflect poorly on the league? Also has anything like that ever happened, where the league stepped in and annealed a trade they deemed unfair?

I don't know it's just something that's been rattling around in my brain for a couple days.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 01:43 PM

Considering the league didn't step in when we traded a fisrt rounder for Quincey, I'm going to go ahead and say no.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 01:47 PM

Can't say I know the specifics, but I do believe there are provisions for this type of thing.  My guess is that this is part of the reason why trade calls have to take place with the league before a trade can be finalized.



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:44 PM

There are precedents in other leagues, but I can't say that I've ever seen that happen in the NHL. For example, the NBA blocked the trade of Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, so I'm guessing there is some sort of commissioner authority. I know back when the Pens traded for Hossa, there was a large uproar that the deal was far too lopsided, but nothing ever came from that. 



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:55 PM

Considering the league didn't step in when we traded a fisrt rounder for Quincey, I'm going to go ahead and say no.

 

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 04:13 PM

The league can block a trade. Most trades could at least be argued as legit, but if it was something like Ovechkin for a 7th rounder or something it might not fly.

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


#7 marcaractac

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 04:15 PM

The league would definitely step in if a trade was lopsided enough. Even if there is nothing in the CBA about it, it would make the league look very bad and they would not allow it. 



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 04:31 PM

I think it's covered int he league by-laws, not the CBA.  The CBA covers stuf between the teams and players, not between teams.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


#9 wings87

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 04:33 PM

The league would definitely step in if a trade was lopsided enough. Even if there is nothing in the CBA about it, it would make the league look very bad and they would not allow it. 

 

The league can block a trade. Most trades could at least be argued as legit, but if it was something like Ovechkin for a 7th rounder or something it might not fly.

 

If the CBA or the by-laws don't specifically allow the league to block a trade, couldn't an arbitrator overturn it? In the Ovechkin for a 7th rounder example, Washington could argue that if they clear his salary of the books, they might be better equipped to field a competitive team. I'm sure the league would attempt to block it, but not sure that they have the legal standing to do so; if a team would take the matter to an arbitrator. But like I said this all hypothetical.      


Edited by wings87, 02 April 2014 - 04:34 PM.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 05:48 PM

 

 

If the CBA or the by-laws don't specifically allow the league to block a trade, couldn't an arbitrator overturn it? In the Ovechkin for a 7th rounder example, Washington could argue that if they clear his salary of the books, they might be better equipped to field a competitive team. I'm sure the league would attempt to block it, but not sure that they have the legal standing to do so; if a team would take the matter to an arbitrator. But like I said this all hypothetical.      

 

In the end, if it did come to an arbitrator, you'd have to think they'd side with the league considering the fan base of the team getting hosed would be absolutely losing their minds. Clearing cap space or not, such a lopsided trade will never be allowed to happen.



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 05:52 PM

 

In the end, if it did come to an arbitrator, you'd have to think they'd side with the league considering the fan base of the team getting hosed would be absolutely losing their minds. Clearing cap space or not, such a lopsided trade will never be allowed to happen.

 

This is far-fetched anyway, no GM in their right mind would make a trade like that. Except maybe Gillis although I'm not sure he is in his right mind. 


Edited by wings87, 02 April 2014 - 06:25 PM.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 06:18 PM

 

This so far-fetched anyway, no GM in their right mind would make a trade like that. Except maybe Gillis although I'm not sure he is in his right mind. 

 

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 06:25 PM

 

*cough*garthsnow*cough*

 

Aah... But that implies he has a mind to begin with. 


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 06:40 PM

 

Aah... But that implies he has a mind to begin with. 

 

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#15 Kmahrle83

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 09:58 PM

The league does have final say on approval for all trades


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Posted 03 April 2014 - 09:36 AM

Considering the league didn't step in when we traded a fisrt rounder for Quincey, I'm going to go ahead and say no.

 

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 10:09 AM

There are precedents in other leagues, but I can't say that I've ever seen that happen in the NHL. For example, the NBA blocked the trade of Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, so I'm guessing there is some sort of commissioner authority. I know back when the Pens traded for Hossa, there was a large uproar that the deal was far too lopsided, but nothing ever came from that. 

 

There is precedent in the NHL for a trade being rejected for being too lopsided & yes of course Mike Milbury was involved.

 

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