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#541 Mckinley25

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 09:07 PM

Legwand has been playing well in front of the net.

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 09:08 PM

Howard doesn't make any better saves. His rebound control is just as horrible.

I agree.  But he's is a little more consistent.  Monster is kind of all over the place.   He made some wicked saves but that fourth goal was dicey.  



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Posted 05 April 2014 - 09:09 PM

Datsyuk was still our best forward. Only think I noticed was he was a step slower and not back checking like a demon like his usual self. Hardly our problem.

Frustrating because when healthy I think our forward corps is near the tops in the league but our Defense is a joke and it would have been so easy to add an upgrade to our bottom pairing

I bet Kronwall would still play with the same injury as Ericsson. Just sayin

 

What worried me was I noticed on at least a few occasions he was a bit slow to get up after going down. I get that he's going to need a week or so to be back in game shape, and he might be pushing a bit too hard right now relative to his conditioning level and lack of games lately, but it absolutely worries me to see him struggling to get back on his feet given that he's missed all this time because of a knee injury. It very well could be nothing, and I certainly hope it is; hopefully he's just winded. But if he's having to fight through pain just to get up, you have to worry how the grind is going to affect him moving forward and how easily one bad play could lead to a more major setback.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 09:11 PM

Well he was more effective then all of our forwards minus maybe Tatar. Not even close to a detriment to the team. Made our pp a hell of a lot better. There's much much more to complain about than adding a 70 percent Datsyuk playing in his second game back. He helped us get this close he wasn't a reason we lost

I didn't say he was horrible.  But he was noticeably hurting. I don't think it's a matter of conditioning.  I think he will have some flashes of brilliance because he's Pav. But I think fans thinking that he's fine and just needs a few days to get his legs back are kind of kidding themselves.



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Posted 05 April 2014 - 09:11 PM

I agree.  But he's is a little more consistent.  Monster is kind of all over the place.   He made some wicked saves but that fourth goal was dicey.


It's hard to make saves when you have to worry about your own player trying to score on your end too haha :D

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 09:18 PM

Unfortunately, not true.  His knee is not better.  He was evaluated and told his knee would not sustain further damage if he played so he made the decision to play.  He's not healthy and in out of conditioning.  He's hurt and in poor condition.

 

Interesting. As long as they don't think he'll do more damage, than good for him for fighting through it. Datsyuk at 70-75% is still far better than most NHLers and his overall play should improve as his conditioning improves. My only real concern with Datsyuk has been this injury becoming more of a long-term issue. 


I agree.  But he's is a little more consistent.  Monster is kind of all over the place.   He made some wicked saves but that fourth goal was dicey.  

 

We've gotten wins more consistently with Monster than Howard this year. The numbers don't lie on that one and Monster's got a much better record than Howard. Howard's been better lately, but given his overall season thus far, I wouldn't be betting on Howard being better for us tonight because he's more consistent. Either guy is likely going to lose this game with the way the D played. And let's not forget, rough as some of Gus's GAs were, he also made more than a few really great saves. It could've been worse given the frequency and level of defensive lapses in this game. And again, I think it was for the best that Howard got to sit this one out. He's just starting to string some solid play together; he doesn't need to be setup to fail right now.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 09:31 PM

holland has had 2 years to do something about this dogsh*t defense.

if he does nothing this summer, it's going to be another long, long season next year.



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Posted 05 April 2014 - 09:38 PM

We got robbed of at least a pt tonight ... Those 2 habs goals in the third were total bulls***

I'm beyond f***en pissed off right now

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:17 PM

 

We've gotten wins more consistently with Monster than Howard this year. The numbers don't lie on that one and Monster's got a much better record than Howard. Howard's been better lately, but given his overall season thus far, I wouldn't be betting on Howard being better for us tonight because he's more consistent. Either guy is likely going to lose this game with the way the D played. And let's not forget, rough as some of Gus's GAs were, he also made more than a few really great saves. It could've been worse given the frequency and level of defensive lapses in this game. And again, I think it was for the best that Howard got to sit this one out. He's just starting to string some solid play together; he doesn't need to be setup to fail right now.

 

Monster is only 5-3 with a GAA of almost 3.5 and  save% around .900 since the turn of the year while getting quite a bit more goal support from the team. Monster more than outplayed Howard at the beginning of the year but hes come back down to earth with his play and is showing more of his true colors. With the way Howard has been playing lately he might have been able to pull it out the same way he did against Boston. 



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Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:20 PM

Howard wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game. The 5 goal was goalie interference how for you stop a shot if you can't move around! I hope the game was some sort of wake up call and the team puts in 60 minutes against the Sabres

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:26 PM

The Monster reeked tonight. Lashoff and Kindl brutal as usual. Montreal is as always the most opportunist team in nhl. Everything goes their way.

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:35 PM

 

Interesting. As long as they don't think he'll do more damage, than good for him for fighting through it. Datsyuk at 70-75% is still far better than most NHLers and his overall play should improve as his conditioning improves. My only real concern with Datsyuk has been this injury becoming more of a long-term issue. 


 

We've gotten wins more consistently with Monster than Howard this year. The numbers don't lie on that one and Monster's got a much better record than Howard. Howard's been better lately, but given his overall season thus far, I wouldn't be betting on Howard being better for us tonight because he's more consistent. Either guy is likely going to lose this game with the way the D played. And let's not forget, rough as some of Gus's GAs were, he also made more than a few really great saves. It could've been worse given the frequency and level of defensive lapses in this game. And again, I think it was for the best that Howard got to sit this one out. He's just starting to string some solid play together; he doesn't need to be setup to fail right now.

 

I agree that the numbers themselves do not lie.  But, they certainly can be used to mislead. 

 

The team has scored a goal more per game on average in games that Gustavsson has started vs. games that Howard has started.

 

So, either Gustavsson is contributing significantly better than Howard is on offense.... or the records really do not accurately reflect who is the better choice in goal.



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Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:39 PM

Didn't think we'd beat Bruins - but should beat Hab's - even trade in my book


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:41 PM

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:52 PM

we're fine guys dont worry



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Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:53 PM

I think refs miss a lot of close offsides it just so happens this one resulted in a goal

Some aggressive forechecking teams could be called offside on every other dump in

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 03:30 AM

Monster looked bad today. Lashoff was brutal. Speaking of which why was Lashoff paired with Kronwall that shift (during the second goal) and Smith moved to the Kindl pairing? They switched back shortly after but I was so confused. So disappointing to lose a game like that where it seemed like we controlled most of the play. Deserved at least a point.

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 04:51 AM

I don't think Monster looked awesome, actually pretty much below average, but "bad" is a little harsh considering the way those goals developed. ;)

 

I liked what I saw from Pavel. Needs to be seen how much is about conditioning and how much is about his knee, but his hockey IQ is so off the charts, he makes the teams better even if he's just at 70%.


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 09:10 AM

missed the game 

 

glad to see datsyuk and glendenning finally score

 

nice seeing they came back 

 

those last 2 goals were pretty bulls***

 

oh well buffalo on tuesday go get em



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Posted 06 April 2014 - 09:30 AM

I think refs miss a lot of close offsides it just so happens this one resulted in a goal

Some aggressive forechecking teams could be called offside on every other dump in

 

I can see the barely off sides getting missed but this was just blatant.  It's like the ref looking at the whole thing and having a brain fart and not calling it clearly.







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