number9 3,297 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 I wonder if Holland ever thinks to himself, "I guess I should have 'overpaid' for a good defenseman when I had the chance". Like, I don't expect him to ever come out and say it, but I wonder if he thinks it. If so, it was probably right around the time he was trying to trade assets for the very same Christian Erhoff that half this forum was screaming to sign three years ago. Ehrhoffs rights got traded around that year and he never hit FA. I doubt holland would ever trade for a players rights Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Ehrhoffs rights got traded around that year and he never hit FA. I doubt holland would ever trade for a players rights Erhoffs rights were traded to the Islanders, whom he didn't sign with, before he hit the market and signed with Buffalo in FA. If I remember correctly. Edit: And I didn't remember correctly because his rights were traded twice that year, first to the Island and then to Buffalo. So your point is valid and mine was wrong. Acknowledged. Edited March 17, 2014 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 The thing I like about the Blues is they never had welfare picks handing them Crosby, Malkin, Toews, Kane, etc. Sure they've had high picks (ironically they one 1st was Eric Johnson) but I never get sick to my stomach thinking about them the way I do Chicago and Pittsburgh. They both got s***-ass lucky and sucked at just the right time to land elite generational talent. Hell, look at Edmonton. If they had been this bad from 2004-2006 they would have had Crosby and Ovechkin. Instead, they got Hall and the Nuge. Basically, I like St Louis because I don't think the league gifted them a team. That's a good point about the Blues. Honestly I'd probably like them more if Backes wasn't their captain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 That's a good point about the Blues. Honestly I'd probably like them more if Backes wasn't their captain. How do you not like Backes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 How do you not like Backes? He's got a lot of great qualities and I wouldn't mind having him on the Wings in the same way I would've taken Pronger on the Wings. But he's also a dirty player who runs around cheapshotting guys, especially when his team is losing. As long as he's in another team's sweater, I'm not going to go out of the way to root for the guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 Erhoffs rights were traded to the Islanders, whom he didn't sign with, before he hit the market and signed with Buffalo in FA. If I remember correctly. Edit: And I didn't remember correctly because his rights were traded twice that year, first to the Island and then to Buffalo. So your point is valid and mine was wrong. Acknowledged. I was keen on both Wisniewski and Ehrhoff that year and both their rights got traded around. Was disappointing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 I've always loved Michalek, I think with his shot he'd do great with Pav. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 I've always loved Michalek, I think with his shot he'd do great with Pav. After this barf bag of a season, Holland's #1 MO above all else this summer should be to not sign any guys who have a reputation of being injury-prone. Guys like Michalek, Hemsky, Gaborik, and Markov (although amazingly, he's played 69 this year) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 After this barf bag of a season, Holland's #1 MO above all else this summer should be to not sign any guys who have a reputation of being injury-prone. Guys like Michalek, Hemsky, Gaborik, and Markov (although amazingly, he's played 69 this year) What's even more depressing is the most injury prone guy he got rid of, Colaicovo has been healthy since leaving the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 What's even more depressing is the most injury prone guy he got rid of, Colaicovo has been healthy since leaving the Wings. LOL They don't play him much though. Easier to stay healthy sitting in the press box. Even for him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 After this barf bag of a season, Holland's #1 MO above all else this summer should be to not sign any guys who have a reputation of being injury-prone. Guys like Michalek, Hemsky, Gaborik, and Markov (although amazingly, he's played 69 this year) Tough to argue with that, but just because a player has never been injured doesn't mean he won't have a groin pull in training camp and miss the season. Such is our luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SimonSin 192 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 I was just on capgeek.com and am I reading this right? Wings are going to have 20 million to spend coming this summer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 I was just on capgeek.com and am I reading this right? Wings are going to have 20 million to spend coming this summer? New estimates put the cap at 68 than the original 71 projection. So that's 16m in space before signing RFAs Tatar, Sheahan, Dekeyser, Glendening, Almquist, Ferraro, Callahan (5-8m) and UFAs Legwand and Alfie(8-10m). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 I was just on capgeek.com and am I reading this right? Wings are going to have 20 million to spend coming this summer? It'll be closer to 5 mil after Holland resign: Quincey, Cleary, Bert, Sammy, Alife, and Legwand... God I wish I was joking but you know some of them will get resigned. *shakes head* 1 SimonSin reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SimonSin 192 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 It'll be closer to 5 mil after Holland resign: Quincey, Cleary, Bert, Sammy, Alife, and Legwand... God I wish I was joking but you know some of them will get resigned. *shakes head* I really don't think any of those guys will be resigned in my opinion. I think they're all gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 LOL They don't play him much though. Easier to stay healthy sitting in the press box. Even for him Yeah,cause they have 6 better guys,unlike the Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NitzGuy 38 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 I really don't think any of those guys will be resigned in my opinion. I think they're all gone. I doubt it. I'd say cleary is back since I think he was given some Kenny promise for this years contract. Earlier in the season I'd say Bert would stay but now I'm not sure anymore since he's proven to be only useful with Z and D. Alfie is up to him, if he wants to stay Holland will sign him again. I think legwand will be back, kenny's recent trade won't be thrown away. I think Quincy is the only for sure to be gone unless he takes a huge decrease and Holland can't find anyone else. It's how I think Holland will think anyway. Not how I'd do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 Legwand and Alfie will return. No one else. Tata and Deke will be re-signed. I'm worried about Quincey though. Holland might be afraid of missing out on another D-man and re-sign him as insurance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pondrocket 35 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 Legwand and Alfie will return. No one else. Tata and Deke will be re-signed. I'm worried about Quincey though. Holland might be afraid of missing out on another D-man and re-sign him as insurance. If Holland does sign Quincy (I don't doubt that he could) I think every true Wings fan owes it to Mr. and Mrs. I to storm the Joe and leave with Holland's head on a stick. 1 dirtydangles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 Id sooner Holland let Marchenko step up and give AA a chance than re-sign KQ on any sort of contract. 1 dirtydangles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW Dominance 255 Report post Posted March 18, 2014 i don't think legwand resigns....where's he gonna play with z,d, helm and weiss back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PumpkinEscobar 136 Report post Posted March 18, 2014 Zetterberg and Datsyuk on same line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted March 18, 2014 i don't think legwand resigns....where's he gonna play with z,d, helm and weiss back? on the line of whoever inevitably gets injured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted March 18, 2014 the centers you'll have next season even with Z and D on the same line are Datsyuk, Weiss, Helm, Andersson, Sheahan, Glendening, Legwand. I do believe Legwand will resign with Detroit. Something has to change and someone (or two) has to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Datsyukian Deke 127 Report post Posted March 18, 2014 In a perfect world....re-sign Legwand, let go Andersson & Glendening and trade Weiss for a Top4 DMan.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
