WingedWheel91 271 Report post Posted April 14, 2014 Hi Guys, I just wanted to start a thread (apologies if this topic is being talked about in a different one) to discuss line combinations for Round 1 against the Bruins. From everything I have heard, Zetterberg is hopeful for a Game 4/5 return, while Ericsson is looking at the start of Round 2. Based on the past few games, I have found it toughest to gauge where Babcock is going to put Helm. It seems logical to think that a lot of that will depend on matchups (home/away) but it seems as though him and Legwand are Interchangeable. Here is my best guess for Games 1-4. Abdelkader - Datsyuk - Alfredsson Nyquist - Legwand - Franzen Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Miller - Helm - Glendenning Kronwall - Smith Dekesyer - Quincey Kindl - Lashoff Howard. Let me know what you guys think and how we stack up against Boston Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 14, 2014 Hi Guys, I just wanted to start a thread (apologies if this topic is being talked about in a different one) to discuss line combinations for Round 1 against the Bruins. From everything I have heard, Zetterberg is hopeful for a Game 4/5 return, while Ericsson is looking at the start of Round 2. Based on the past few games, I have found it toughest to gauge where Babcock is going to put Helm. It seems logical to think that a lot of that will depend on matchups (home/away) but it seems as though him and Legwand are Interchangeable. Here is my best guess for Games 1-4. Abdelkader - Datsyuk - Alfredsson Nyquist - Legwand - Franzen Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Miller - Helm - Glendenning Kronwall - Smith Dekesyer - Quincey Kindl - Lashoff Howard. Let me know what you guys think and how we stack up against Boston I'm hoping babs puts nyquist and pavel together. If it was me id go with... Nyquist- datsyuk-alfy Tatar-sheahan-jurco Franzen-Legwand-helm Miller-glenny-Abby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted April 14, 2014 If it were me: Franzen - Datsyuk - Nyquist -- Bergeron line and Chara. Abby - Legwand - Alfie -- Soderberg line Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco -- Paille line Miller - Helm - Glendening -- Krejci line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted April 14, 2014 You lost Babcock at the first line because there's no "net front presence". Yeah, NyQ will go to the corners and retrieve pucks and he always seems to be lurking somewhere near the slot, but he's not going to be the guy that parks his ass in front for screens. I'm hoping babs puts nyquist and pavel together. If it was me id go with...Nyquist- datsyuk-alfyTatar-sheahan-jurcoFranzen-Legwand-helmMiller-glenny-Abby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FifeHockeyNut 57 Report post Posted April 14, 2014 Hi Guys, I just wanted to start a thread (apologies if this topic is being talked about in a different one) to discuss line combinations for Round 1 against the Bruins. From everything I have heard, Zetterberg is hopeful for a Game 4/5 return, while Ericsson is looking at the start of Round 2. Based on the past few games, I have found it toughest to gauge where Babcock is going to put Helm. It seems logical to think that a lot of that will depend on matchups (home/away) but it seems as though him and Legwand are Interchangeable. Here is my best guess for Games 1-4. Abdelkader - Datsyuk - Alfredsson Nyquist - Legwand - Franzen Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Miller - Helm - Glendenning Kronwall - Smith Dekesyer - Quincey Kindl - Lashoff Howard. Let me know what you guys think and how we stack up against Boston I think these lines are probably best, the way out roster is at the moment having Datsyuk and Nyquist on the same line makes the Chara matchup easy for Julien, by splitting them I think we have more chance of causing them trouble, also think babcock wants them to be kept separate so Gus doesn't feel he has to always give the puck to Pav. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smite 399 Report post Posted April 14, 2014 bigger questions is who comes out if/when Z is healthy. What does Babs do when E comes back on Defense. Smitty and Kronner has pleased really good together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted April 14, 2014 I want to see; Nyqvist Datsyuk Abdelkader Alfredsson Legwand Franzen Jurco Sheahan Tatar Miller Glendenjng Helm 1 UpstateNYRedWingsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted April 14, 2014 Heres what WILL happen: Franzen - Dats - Abby (hate this line) Tatar - Sheahan - Nyquist Jurco/Miller - Helm - Alfie/Bertuzzi Miller/Jurco - Glendenning - Legwand Kronwall - Smith Dekeyser - Quincey Kindl - Lashoff Here's what I think would be the most productive lineup with the assumption that sproul/oullet remain in the minors: Nyquist - Dats - Abby Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Franzen - Helm/Legwand - Alfredsson Miller - Glendenning - Legwand/Helm Kronwall/Smith Dekeyser/Lashoff Quincey/Kindl Lash/Kindl NEED to be separated if we have any chance of making it anywhere. That might be the worst D pairing I've seen in detroit in recent time. Smith can't be removed from Kronner as he is clearly at his best with someone reliable beside him. The bottom 2 pairings are balanced out as much as possible this way. Dats has shown to not play well with franzen/alfie but I'm sure we'll still see that combination throughout the first round. IMO, he needs a player like abby with another fast skilled forward such as nyquist/jurco on his line. IF franzen decides to show up for a few shifts he'd be okay on datsyuks line as long as there is that skilled forward on that line as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McAwesome 754 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) I would go with: Abdelkader/Datsyuk/Nyquist Alfredsson/Legwand/Franzen Tatar/Sheahan/Jurco Miller/Glendening/Helm Kronwall/Smith DeKeyser/Quincy Lashoff/Kindl Hard to come up with a combo of Quincey, Lashoff, and Kindl on that bottom pairing that isn't cringeworthy, but Q has been making fewer bonehead plays lately, so keeping him with DeKeyser offsets the inevitability as DD can cover any brainfarts. Lashoff/Kindl is still a turd sandwich, just not a soggy one, limit their ice time and for the love of YFMB keep Kindl off the PP! Edited April 15, 2014 by McAwesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nevermind 363 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 Abdelkader-Datsyuk-Nyquist Franzen-Helm-Alfredsson Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco Miller-Legwand-Glendening Roll 4 lines just like Boston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 Nyquist - Datsyuk - Alfredssson Franzen - Legwand - Cleary Jurco - Sheahan - Tatar Abdelkader - Helm - Glendenning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 Most of us are on the same page with lines, it seems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 Most of us are on the same page with lines, it seems. Not I said the fly. When Nyquist is on a line with Dats he doesn't seem to produce. Leave him with Legwand and Franzen and but Dats with Alfie and Abdelkader until Z gets back. Nothing about Dats and Nyquist playing together thus far has been a success, the only reason everybody likes it is because they're mesmerized by the thought of the two together...regardless of the cold hard reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 I would go with: Abdelkader/Datsyuk/Nyquist Alfredsson/Legwand/Franzen Tatar/Sheahan/Jurco Miller/Glendening/Helm Kronwall/Smith DeKeyser/Quincy Lashoff/Kindl Hard to come up with a combo of Quincey, Lashoff, and Kindl on that bottom pairing that isn't cringeworthy, but Q has been making fewer bonehead plays lately, so keeping him with DeKeyser offsets the inevitability as DD can cover any brainfarts. Lashoff/Kindl is still a turd sandwich, just not a soggy one, limit their ice time and for the love of YFMB keep Kindl off the PP! I'd swap Nyquist and Alfie, otherwise totally agree. I just feel like that second line won't produce without Nyquist and if I recall his hot streak was in full steam when he was with Legwand and Franzen. Either way I just want to see Jurco back on the kid line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 No, we're not. Most of us are on the same page with lines, it seems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 You guys are going to hear a lot of bitching from me if Jurco isn't with Tatar, and Abby is on the top line. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 Not I said the fly. When Nyquist is on a line with Dats he doesn't seem to produce. Leave him with Legwand and Franzen and but Dats with Alfie and Abdelkader until Z gets back. Nothing about Dats and Nyquist playing together thus far has been a success, the only reason everybody likes it is because they're mesmerized by the thought of the two together...regardless of the cold hard reality. They haven't- doesn't mean they won't, Pav wasn't anywhere near game shape when he came back which hasn't exactly been ideal for Gus. I still think they can find chemistry together. The Abby Dats Alfie line, isn't something I"d be able to handle long term. Alfie was terrible towards the end and I hate when Abby plays with Pav. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 I simply want the kid line to get second line minutes Ill go with Mule dats Gus Tatar sheahan jurco Alfredsson legwand abdelkader I think all three have offensive ability Then go glendening helm and in my wet dream tootoo but realistically miller Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 It will be interesting to see if Babcock gets the kid line drunk and gives them revolvers, or if he hog-ties them to a post and plays 20-41-17 for like 30 minutes in game 1. It will be interesting to see if Babcock gets the kid line drunk and gives them revolvers, or if he hog-ties them to a post and plays 20-41-17 for like 30 minutes in game 1. Also, I’m going to quote myself here + add that 20-41-17 IMO is a pretty awesome 4th line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAWings 160 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 We saw how well the kids played with Dats and Z out, so why not creat havoc for the B's and put Dats on the 3rd line? Nyquist - Legwand - Franzen Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Helm - Datsyuk - Alfredsson Miller - Glendenning - Abdelkader It may look strange, but how do you counter that? 1 WingedWheel91 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotorCityMadness 388 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) If it were me: Franzen - Datsyuk - Nyquist -- Bergeron line and Chara. Abby - Legwand - Alfie -- Soderberg line Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco -- Paille line Miller - Helm - Glendening -- Krejci line These 2 lines may be the difference maker in this series...if the kids can outplay the Paille line and Helm's line can keep Krejci's line in check then this gives the Wing's a punchers chance. Edited April 15, 2014 by MotorCityMadness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FifeHockeyNut 57 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 Not I said the fly. When Nyquist is on a line with Dats he doesn't seem to produce. Leave him with Legwand and Franzen and but Dats with Alfie and Abdelkader until Z gets back. Nothing about Dats and Nyquist playing together thus far has been a success, the only reason everybody likes it is because they're mesmerized by the thought of the two together...regardless of the cold hard reality. Exactly! Gus is in awe when he plays with Datsyuk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 Not I said the fly. When Nyquist is on a line with Dats he doesn't seem to produce. Leave him with Legwand and Franzen and but Dats with Alfie and Abdelkader until Z gets back. Nothing about Dats and Nyquist playing together thus far has been a success, the only reason everybody likes it is because they're mesmerized by the thought of the two together...regardless of the cold hard reality. The cold hard reality of what ? Playing together for maybe 8 games in his career with Datsyuk. Chemistry isn't a thing you learn overnight, look no further then Abby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) The cold hard reality of what ? Playing together for maybe 8 games in his career with Datsyuk. Chemistry isn't a thing you learn overnight, look no further then Abby. I actually agree with your thoughts here. But a Stanley Cup playoff series against arguably the best team in the league isn't exactly the time to be hashing out chemistry issues. We already know that Nyquist can score with Franzen and Legwand. Leave him there and let him produce immediately. We're going to need it. Edited April 15, 2014 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) No, we're not. 2.jpg Who's #71? Edited April 16, 2014 by Euro_Twins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites