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#21 Euro_Twins

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 12:26 PM

I feel like he's leaving regardless of what Holland wants. He was going to take the wings to arbitration, there's been no mention of contract talks with him, and I can't see how he likes playing here considering all the heat he takes for making so many mistakes.

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 03:06 PM

I feel like he's leaving regardless of what Holland wants. He was going to take the wings to arbitration, there's been no mention of contract talks with him, and I can't see how he likes playing here considering all the heat he takes for making so many mistakes.

 

He's unrestricted.  They'll either offer him a contract he likes or he'll walk.  There is no arbitration, and they're probably just waiting until the end of the season to talk with him.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 03:23 PM

 
He's unrestricted.  They'll either offer him a contract he likes or he'll walk.  There is no arbitration, and they're probably just waiting until the end of the season to talk with him.


I was talking about when he signed his current contract, he had filed for arbitration. I know he is unrestricted after this season, which is why I said I think he will be gone regardless of what Kenny wants. Unless he offers Quincey something like $5m/year or something ridiculously stupid like that.

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:59 PM

A lot of players file for it as a way to get talks moving.  It doesn't mean they're unhappy.  He may want to leave, who knows, but I don't think that there's any indication that he does.  He'll have to take a paycut most likely, but unless someone gets desperate and signs him to a big deal just to say that they did SOMETHING I think he's going to make less money regardless of where he plays going forward.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 05:06 PM

I agree with the pay cut. But I just have a sick and weird feeling Kenny will try to keep him and over pay for him.



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 09:31 PM

Yup. Holland will say "better the devil we know" and throw cash at him. Scary thought. With the free agent pool so weak I don't see a way Holland doesnt overpay, thus hurting us doubly. Our only hope is for Quincey to walk away to a team in a sunnu climate with no pressure. Or to go back to the Avs. He liked it there.
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Posted 17 April 2014 - 09:37 PM

Would love to see Quincey gone.  Just does not fit with the identity of this team, and never will.



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 09:41 PM

I'd rather have Marchenko up next year and hold onto Kindl (who should be gone the following year). I'm hoping Quincey doesn't want to stay so Holland can't overpay him. 


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Posted 18 April 2014 - 07:43 AM

Where is the overpay thing coming from? His current salary is based on the qualifying offer Holland had to give him based on the contract LA (I think, might have been the Avs) gave him.

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 18 April 2014 - 08:15 AM

Where is the overpay thing coming from?

 

He should probably be making third-pairing money, but, whether he stays or goes, he's likely going to get top-four money. If he doesn't, he should fire his agent.


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Posted 18 April 2014 - 08:18 AM

I never even knew we had a Kyle Quincey appreciation thread.....When the heck did this happen. HAHAHAHA


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Posted 18 April 2014 - 08:43 AM

For one, I actually do appreciate Kyle Quincey.  All he ever did this season was average over 20:00 minutes a night on a depleted blueline for 82 games.  Along the way he put up respectable numbers in all major defensive defenseman stats, including hits, blocked shots, takeaways, and penalty kill TOI.  Was he as good as Kronwall or Ericsson?  No.  But he earned his paycheck this year despite being much maligned. 

 

Only on LGW can a guy get snarky cheapshots thrown at him for playing big minutes each game, EVERY game, in the most grueling schedule in professional sports. 

 

Atta boy Kyle Quincey!  Here's one guy (at least) who thinks you earned it. 


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Posted 18 April 2014 - 09:15 AM

 

He should probably be making third-pairing money, but, whether he stays or goes, he's likely going to get top-four money. If he doesn't, he should fire his agent.

 

Again, his current contract is based on what he signed for with the Avs (I looked it up, he signed a 2 year deal with Colorado after the trade).  Holland could have let him hit the market as a UFA by not tendering the qualifying offer, but what would have been the point of trading for him then?  Whether or not he's overpaid on the contract he signs this offseason is going to depend on your feelings about him.  Some people act like minimum salary would be too much.  I think he'l get just under $3 mil per from Detroit, maybe a bit more, if he wants to stay.  I think that even with the weak market, he'll top out at what he's getting now on the market.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 18 April 2014 - 01:15 PM

Quincey has been quite improved since earlier in the season, but there was nowhere to go but up. My problem with Quincey just being "decent" is the price tag. I don't think you give up a first rounder and sign someone for nearly four million dollars and then say not being a complete trainwreck is now acceptable. While Quincey has mostly cleaned up his glaring defensive gaffes, he still produces nothing offensively. I still don't even think he's all that solid overall defensively either, but anyone looks good when you have Kindl and Lashoff on the same team as a comparison. 

 

Holland will probably re-sign him because "he knows the system" or whatever and the Red Wings are apparently content with riding a makeshift, poor defense until some of the prospects are ready to go. I would let Quincey walk regardless -- pursue someone in free agency that can move the puck. Even in a weak class of d-men, there are options superior to Quincey. 


 
 
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Posted 18 April 2014 - 03:10 PM

Quit ruining our buzz. ;)

 

For one, I actually do appreciate Kyle Quincey.  All he ever did this season was average over 20:00 minutes a night on a depleted blueline for 82 games.  Along the way he put up respectable numbers in all major defensive defenseman stats, including hits, blocked shots, takeaways, and penalty kill TOI.  Was he as good as Kronwall or Ericsson?  No.  But he earned his paycheck this year despite being much maligned. 

 

Only on LGW can a guy get snarky cheapshots thrown at him for playing big minutes each game, EVERY game, in the most grueling schedule in professional sports. 

 

Atta boy Kyle Quincey!  Here's one guy (at least) who thinks you earned it. 


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